San Bernadino CA: 3 active shooters


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4 minutes ago, Boo Berry said:

Apparently.

 

EDIT: I just heard "female Arabic" on the scanner. WTF?

Where is the Amazon Center?

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"I am in the Amazon building at 1910 E central and our employees in the parking lot heard the gunshots and ran inside. We are just on the other side of the wash of the SUV and it aligned with the times of that, but no shots at Amazon itself".

 

That's from a 911 call.

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1 minute ago, Boo Berry said:

Yep, it's indeed a terrorist incident.

No question about it. The question is the motive.

 

Report of another person barricaded in a home.

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32 minutes ago, DocM said:

No question about it. The question is the motive.

Actually, there is no way of knowing it's terrorism until the motive is established. Terrorism is the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims - if they're simply killing people for the sake of it then that's not terrorism.

 

As for those claiming this is 'excellent police work', what a disgusting sentiment. It is not the job of police to execute suspects, even those guilty of heinous crimes - it is their job to apprehend them. In the UK you never see police firing indiscriminately at suspects and vehicles; they always use controlled, targeted fire with the intent of the non-lethal outcome. In the US people are killed without a second thought, which is unacceptable. The vehicle pictured looks like something out of a Rambo movie, not the police controlling the situation.

 

This is yet another example of out of control policing in the US. How long until the police are assassinating people with drone strikes? I ask that as a serious question, because it can't be long. People should be appalled at this sort of policing, not proud of it.

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3 minutes ago, theyarecomingforyou said:

Actually, there is no way of knowing it's terrorism until the motive is established. Terrorism is the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims - if they're simply killing people for the sake of it then that's not terrorism.

 

As for those claiming this is 'excellent police work', what a disgusting sentiment. It is not the job of police to execute suspects, even those guilty of heinous crimes - it is their job to apprehend them. In the UK you never see police firing indiscriminately at suspects and vehicles; they always use controlled, targeted fire with the intent of the non-lethal outcome. In the US people are killed without a second thought, which is unacceptable. The vehicle pictured looks like something out of a Rambo movie, not the police controlling the situation.

 

This is yet another example of out of control policing in the US. How long until the police are assassinating people with drone strikes? I ask that as a serious question, because it can't be long. People should be appalled at this sort of policing, not proud of it.

The job of the police is to protect and serve.  Apprehension is secondary to that, which means that if they have to kill to ensure they protect and serve the citizens then that's what they do, that's what they are enpowered to do.

 

I haven't seen a similar case like this in the UK to compare to, so if you all ever get your numbers up then we can do a comparison.  However, it's funny how you could twist this situation into an attack on the police, when they acted quickly to stop any further people from being harmed.

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6 minutes ago, theyarecomingforyou said:

Actually, there is no way of knowing it's terrorism until the motive is established. Terrorism is the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims - if they're simply killing people for the sake of it then that's not terrorism.

 

As for those claiming this is 'excellent police work', what a disgusting sentiment. It is not the job of police to execute suspects, even those guilty of heinous crimes - it is their job to apprehend them. In the UK you never see police firing indiscriminately at suspects and vehicles; they always use controlled, targeted fire with the intent of the non-lethal outcome. In the US people are killed without a second thought, which is unacceptable. The vehicle pictured looks like something out of a Rambo movie, not the police controlling the situation.

 

This is yet another example of out of control policing in the US. How long until the police are assassinating people with drone strikes? I ask that as a serious question, because it can't be long. People should be appalled at this sort of policing, not proud of it.

There's no way this was sought out on a whim, "just for the sake of it". There's a social or political motive here, we just need to find out what it is.

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