[Official] The Orville

[LOC Veteran]

Yes, Jonathan Frakes is directing again (he directed an episode last season also) and Sirtis is going to be a guest star on the show before the show's break in Feb I think.

 

I'm about to watch the new episode, but if the internet is any indication - I'm gonna love it

 

Also here's a nice little story: Scott Grimes and Adrianne Palicki (Ed's ex wife btw) are now engaged! Congrats you two

 

EOnline has the scoop!

[margrave]

That last episode was awesome!

[shockz]

Looks like the series might be on the chopping block: https://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/renewcancel/cancel-bear-vs-fox-week-16-2018-19/

 

Hopefully ratings pick up.

[LOC Veteran]

Yeah I saw the ratings weren't great. I'd like to think that because its Seth "Family Guy" Dude - the show might get extra time where as some other shows might not get.

Also, yeah the episode was great. The show is really hitting its stride now I think.

[kjordan2001]

First couple episodes were a little shaky, but the last two episodes were great.

[Son_Of_Dad]

On 1/18/2019 at 12:28 AM, techbeck said:

Leaked screenshots?  Have a link?

I do

[Son_Of_Dad]

11 hours ago, LOC said:

Also here's a nice little story: Scott Grimes and Adrianne Palicki (Ed's ex wife btw) are now engaged! Congrats you two

OK I'm just gonna say it Steve Smith is really punching above his weight 

[Son_Of_Dad]

On 1/19/2019 at 3:52 AM, LOC said:

Yeah I saw the ratings weren't great. I'd like to think that because its Seth "Family Guy" Dude - the show might get extra time where as some other shows might not get.

Lethal Weapon & The Gifted are performing worse for Fox plus Gotham will be ending. They might not want another empty slot for filling and yes theirs also the long standing partnership with MacFarlane

[techbeck]

On 1/23/2019 at 4:19 AM, Son_Of_Dad said:

Lethal Weapon & The Gifted are performing worse for Fox plus Gotham will be ending. They might not want another empty slot for filling and yes theirs also the long standing partnership with MacFarlane

Lethal Weapon went in the crapper since they get rid of Riggs.  Not Lethal Weapon without him.  I heard the story why he was kicked off the show, but it was the shows downfall.

 

Anyway, watching the Orville now.  Very Trek like episode.

[Zathras5]

That was dumb... Why where they so adamant in keeping people they viewed as scum on their planet.. just send 'em back where they came from. Also what does the star returning change? All those people were born when the star wasn't there so they would still bad according to their beliefs. Just an all around dumb episode IMO.

[Son_Of_Dad]

7 hours ago, Zathras5 said:

That was dumb... Why where they so adamant in keeping people they viewed as scum on their planet.. just send 'em back where they came from. Also what does the star returning change? All those people were born when the star wasn't there so they would still bad according to their beliefs. Just an all around dumb episode IMO.

If you're referring to not simply letting Kelly and Bortus leave it would come under one law no exception - a fanatical response. What's not clear is how the public didn't know or weren't told enough about reproduction that they didn't avoid a  specific date range therefore avoiding the "bad month".

 

I liked the concept of the episode but the entire execution was wrong. They had minimal communication before heading to the planet, all of the senior officers except Jon went for a visit, Claire should have reported the oddity from the hospital to Ed.

 

The new security officer is no Alara

[techbeck]

17 hours ago, Son_Of_Dad said:

The new security officer is no Alara

Yea, not sure I like her to much.  It is like they are trying to hard to make that character likeable.

[George P Global Moderator]

It's surprising how we've had two action packed episodes back to back when season 1 didn't have so much.   As far as episode 5, well, if you're looking for everything to make sense in some way then you're not going to get it.  You can poke holes in the story but overall it was a pretty good episode.  Still, you'd think they'd read up on things before you go down to the planet, the politics, laws etc.  They went in blind, but then if they had we wouldn't had gotten the episode to begin with.

 

I like Star Treks prime directive better, if they're not able to fly at warp speeds leave them alone.   This bit about answering if someone sends out a message can backfire, and doesn't mean they're ready to step out into the galaxy.

[LOC Veteran]

Yeah I thought of that also about their version of a prime directive. But in the end we've barely touched on it with the show so far, so my hope is they flesh it out somewhat in future episodes (depending on how much of a future the show has mind you) to the point where its explained away more than it has been.

[FloatingFatMan]

5 hours ago, George P said:

As far as episode 5, well, if you're looking for everything to make sense in some way then you're not going to get it.  You can poke holes in the story but overall it was a pretty good episode. 

Personally, i understood the story just fine.  In fact, I'm not sure why people are having problems with it. Seems pretty obvious to me that, in an overly superstitious society, something that used to be an ill-omen suddenly turning good WOULD absolutely upset everything they knew before...

 

The star vanishing a few thousand years before made them believe anyone born in that sign was ill-omened.  The star returning would certainly reverse that belief and probably even push those people into the best astrological sign of them all, due to the miraculous nature of the star's return.

 

[George P Global Moderator]

5 hours ago, FloatingFatMan said:

Personally, i understood the story just fine.  In fact, I'm not sure why people are having problems with it. Seems pretty obvious to me that, in an overly superstitious society, something that used to be an ill-omen suddenly turning good WOULD absolutely upset everything they knew before...

 

The star vanishing a few thousand years before made them believe anyone born in that sign was ill-omened.  The star returning would certainly reverse that belief and probably even push those people into the best astrological sign of them all, due to the miraculous nature of the star's return.

 

The star coming back made sense as well, the issue some seem to have is how unprepared the team was when they went down.  Why not ask what the laws are and other important information BEFORE you travel to the planet?   I mean it's nitpicking, basically, so I don't really mind it.  It is what it is, some stuff has to be ignored so you can have the episode setup you end up with. 

[FloatingFatMan]

38 minutes ago, George P said:

The star coming back made sense as well, the issue some seem to have is how unprepared the team was when they went down.  Why not ask what the laws are and other important information BEFORE you travel to the planet?   I mean it's nitpicking, basically, so I don't really mind it.  It is what it is, some stuff has to be ignored so you can have the episode setup you end up with. 

It's really no different to TNG when they did it. Remember the one where Wesley fell into a flower bush and was sentenced to death?  At the end of the day, you're never going to learn all the little nuances of someone else's culture and laws when you're meeting them for the first time.

[Son_Of_Dad]

5 hours ago, FloatingFatMan said:

It's really no different to TNG when they did it. Remember the one where Wesley fell into a flower bush and was sentenced to death? 

Speaking of complete messes! Guess that episode was before the prime directive was invented as I don't think the planet of the running people had warp drive! Though I do think a line was inserted where Yar had reviewed legal codes.

 

 

5 hours ago, George P said:

the issue some seem to have is how unprepared the team was when they went down.

And that all of the senior bridge staff went for the hello visit. If it had hit the fan harder and all of them imprisoned they would have been saved by John & Gordon while Isaac questioned everything they did

[adrynalyne]

2 hours ago, Son_Of_Dad said:

Speaking of complete messes! Guess that episode was before the prime directive was invented as I don't think the planet of the running people had warp drive! Though I do think a line was inserted where Yar had reviewed legal codes.

 

 

 

This isn’t Star Trek. Why would you expect it to be governed by the same rules?

[margrave]

I just don't understand how all of a sudden they're fine with them after they shot that many people!

[Rippleman]

On 1/25/2019 at 11:46 AM, Zathras5 said:

Also what does the star returning change? All those people were born when the star wasn't there so they would still bad according to their beliefs.

This came to mind for me too.

[Son_Of_Dad]

56 minutes ago, adrynalyne said:

This isn’t Star Trek. Why would you expect it to be governed by the same rules?

Where did I state it was?

[adrynalyne]

16 minutes ago, Son_Of_Dad said:

Where did I state it was?

Where the hell do you think the prime directive came from? The Star Trek-verse. 

[Son_Of_Dad]

21 minutes ago, adrynalyne said:

Where the hell do you think the prime directive came from? The Star Trek-verse. 

Step back and realise I was replying to the post from FloatingFatMan regarding a similarity with a ST:TNG episode. Did I say they were utilising Star Trek's prime directive on The Orville? No I did not

[adrynalyne]

11 minutes ago, Son_Of_Dad said:

Step back and realise I was replying to the post from FloatingFatMan regarding a similarity with a ST:TNG episode. Did I say they were utilising Star Trek's prime directive on The Orville? No I did not

My bad, sorry.