+Raze Subscriber² Posted October 5, 2017 Subscriber² Share Posted October 5, 2017 @T3X4S my faith in you is restored. Thanks for the clarification. The Evil Overlord and T3X4S 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3X4S Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Just now, Raze said: @T3X4S my faith in you is restored. Thanks for the clarification. Of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Overlord Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Ladies and Gentlemen, a Bromance begins ^^ +Raze, T3X4S and CrashG 2 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPreston Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippleman Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 had a horrible thought... how many copy cats are going to happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3X4S Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 9 hours ago, Rippleman said: had a horrible thought... how many copy cats are going to happen? I was watching a news segment (not sure which) in the cafeteria @ work. They were discussing this very thing. They commented another news segment had a table listing the top mass murders in US history. They pointed out the Orlando was the worst, now this "takes the #1 spot". The news segment they were discussing wasnt trying to make it competitive, but were aloof to the fact that a nutjob would see that and think, "wow I could take the top spot and be #1".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Overlord Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 The media want copycats. Look at all the free exposure they offer. We all agree on that. +Red King and Dick Montage 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPreston Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 (edited) Snyder said Paddock had rigged 12 semiautomatic rifles with devices that allowed the guns to fire like an automatic weapon. http://uk.businessinsider.com/stephen-paddock-las-vegas-shooter-bought-33-firearms-last-year-2017-10?r=US&IR=T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim K Global Moderator Posted October 9, 2017 Global Moderator Share Posted October 9, 2017 Revised timeline + new information Quote Stephen Paddock shot a security guard before opening fire on concertgoers in Las Vegas last weekend, Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said. The guard was investigating an alarm signaling that a door had been left open on the same floor as Paddock's room. Paddock shot Jesus Campos in the leg, injuring him at 9:59 p.m. on October 1, according to Lombardo. At 10:05 p.m, Paddock shot numerous rounds into the crowd at the Route 91 Harvest Festival from his room on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino, authorities have said. He continued firing for about nine to 11 minutes. Paddock's final shots were fired at 10:15 p.m., according to a police timeline. Authorities do not yet know what made him stop shooting, Lombardo said. By the time officers entered the room, Paddock was dead from a self-inflicted gun shot wound. /snip More at CNN hmmm. Now it makes you wonder if there was some kind of breakdown in communications between Hotel security and the LVMPD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Zagadka Subscriber² Posted October 9, 2017 Subscriber² Share Posted October 9, 2017 Quote Authorities do not yet know what made him stop shooting This is the most annoying unanswered/unanswerable questions. Second only to why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, Zagadka said: This is the most annoying unanswered/unanswerable questions. Second only to why. Some conspiracy theories seem to think that he was not alone or he was set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Las Vegas shooting victims file lawsuit against bump stock makers http://www.reuters.com/article/us-lasvegas-shooting-lawsuit/las-vegas-shooting-victims-file-lawsuit-against-bump-stock-makers-idUSKBN1CF2IC Now this is stupid. You don't sue a car manufacturer when a car kills someone. Bumb stocks were legally purchased psmoked 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 On 10/6/2017 at 11:24 AM, The Evil Overlord said: The media want copycats. Look at all the free exposure they offer. We all agree on that. This brings up another issue; many of these shooters, do it so that media will give them play. In other words, they are people who are isolated loners who want to be remembered. Makes you wonder how much of this is made worse by the 24-hour news cycle. psmoked, The Evil Overlord and Dick Montage 2 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slugsie Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 12 hours ago, techbeck said: Las Vegas shooting victims file lawsuit against bump stock makers http://www.reuters.com/article/us-lasvegas-shooting-lawsuit/las-vegas-shooting-victims-file-lawsuit-against-bump-stock-makers-idUSKBN1CF2IC Now this is stupid. You don't sue a car manufacturer when a car kills someone. Bumb stocks were legally purchased Not a reasonable comparison, cars aren't designed to kill people, guns are. The lawsuit also isn't unprecedented, similar actions have been taken against gunmakers in the past. There was one after Sandyhook - which was ultimately dismissed as far as I can tell. I do agree however that it's a stupid lawsuit, but filing lawsuits is almost as much a part of American culture as guns are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Slugsie said: Not a reasonable comparison, cars aren't designed to kill people, guns are. The lawsuit also isn't unprecedented, similar actions have been taken against gunmakers in the past. There was one after Sandyhook - which was ultimately dismissed as far as I can tell. I do agree however that it's a stupid lawsuit, but filing lawsuits is almost as much a part of American culture as guns are. Which There is a firearm makers shield law, the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (2005, Public law 109-92), which may apply here. It pretty much sealed manufacturers from anything except a defect in the device. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Montage Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 On 10/10/2017 at 0:46 AM, techbeck said: Some conspiracy theories seem to think that he was not alone or he was set up. Bloke down my pub started calling people all sorts of names when they suggested him spouting this theory (as fact) was disrespectful to the dead. He's an absolute conspiracy nut, always telling people "Open your eyes" but blindly believing everything he reads on his little forums. 1 hour ago, DocM said: Makes you wonder how much of this is made worse by the 24-hour news cycle. Thank you for saying this - I wholly agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPreston Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/10/politics/bump-stocks-gun-control-bill-introduced/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) Bump stocks definitely violate the spirit if not the letter of the National Firearms Act of 1934. It restricted machine guns in the wake of the Prohibition era gang wars, during which the Thompson sub-machine gun (Tommy Gun) was so prominently used So long as this bill remains focused on them and isn't laden with a bunch of amendments doing back door things, I hope it passes. That said, the devil is always in the details. Edited October 11, 2017 by DocM TPreston, dead.cell, +Raze and 1 other 3 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slugsie Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 38 minutes ago, DocM said: There is a firearm makers shield law, the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (2005, Public law 109-92), which may apply here. It pretty much sealed manufacturers from anything except a defect in the device. Like I said, I doubt the lawsuit would have much weight. If you sell something that has been deemed legal to sell then I think you should be pretty much covered. I'm no fan of everyone having guns and think they should be very tightly controlled, but I don't think the manufacturers of the guns nor the bump stocks did anything illegal. It's interesting that even the NRA are *now* thinking that something needs to be done about bump stocks. Little steps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slugsie Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 On 10/3/2017 at 0:56 AM, JoseyWales said: Look at all the gun grabbers spewing even before the blood has dried.. Little FYI.. Room was full of anti-fa propaganda and the guy was shot by an FBI hostage team, he did not kill himself. Another left winger has gone off the rails and the press and politicians are pulling out the "never let a good tragedy go to waste" handbook.. A perfect example of what all the fake news and hype created by the MSM propaganda machine will get you. A nut job out to kill all the "white Nazi scum" at a "racist" country concert. I watched them early this morning reporting on it, they were giddy.. It was sickening to watch.. Still not prepared to withdraw your inflammatory statement @JoseyWales? Over a week now since this atrocity and none of your assertions have proven to be true. TPreston and Dick Montage 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsYcHoKiLLa Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 On 02/10/2017 at 9:53 PM, shockz said: Why exactly does one need such a weapon outside of the military? I'm all for banning these for the general population. I have no problem owning a rifle or a hand gun, in fact I do, however I still can't fathom why one needs such weapons as an M16? You can't use them for hunting, you'd obliterate whatever you're trying to catch. I'm not being condescending, I'm trying to understand why one would need one unless you're part of a group tasked with taking out multiple targets in a military operation. There's having a gun for defense and then the machines that are displayed above which are overkill (pun intended) for really anyone. SPS (Small Penis Syndrome) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slugsie Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 26 minutes ago, DocM said: Bump stocks definitely violate the spirit if not the letter of the National Firearms Act of 1934. It restricted machine guns in the wake of the Prohibition era gang wars, during which the Thompson sub-machine gun (Tommy Gun) was so prominently used So long as this bill remains focused on them and isn't laden with a bunch of amendments doing back door things, I hope it passes. That said, the devil is always in the details. It's unfortunate that politicians (of all flavours, from all countries) can never seem to stay on point. I won't be surprised of they find a way to slip in something else a little unpopular along with any such new legislation. TPreston 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Las Vegas shooter's home broken into despite intense FBI, police interest http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/11/las-vegas-shooters-home-broken-into-despite-intense-fbi-police-interest.html TPreston 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slugsie Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 21 minutes ago, techbeck said: Las Vegas shooter's home broken into despite intense FBI, police interest http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/11/las-vegas-shooters-home-broken-into-despite-intense-fbi-police-interest.html That's unbelievable, how could that house not be under heavy guard? If there was any evidence left to find it's been compromised now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Slugsie said: That's unbelievable, how could that house not be under heavy guard? If there was any evidence left to find it's been compromised now. Was the intent to steal or place evidence? Feeds in to the whole conspiracy theory ideas. Sure they will get nuts over this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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