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Not working for me either (in UK). Is that something to do with this from

http://www.bbc.co.uk/broadband/info/multicast.shtml :

How to get multicast

Almost all modern computers are capable of receiving multicast. You just need to first check that your internet service provider (ISP) is working (or peering) with the BBC to allow you to use BBC services through multicast. If they are, it's simple: just click on the relevant link and it should work in RealPlayer. Check below to make sure that your ISP is listed. If not you can always ask them why and encourage them to provide the service. Secondly you may need to check that your home broadband router is defaulting to multicast. If not it may need configuring.

Then a bit lower down it says:

Service Providers

JANET

C&W

Claranet

NetServices

Bogons.net

PIPEX

In progress :

Eclipse.net

Intervivo.net

Easynet

I'm with Tiscali, not on the list.

wouldn't it work but only up to a limted amount of people something around 30? if they all the broadcast as much as they could out 256kbits then surely that would increase the numbers more just a thought?

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The whole point about this technology trial is that it was multicast - not the usual unicast. It means that the BBC will only, in theory, need to broadcast to one router, which will then duplicate the packets and forward to other routers that will repeat the procedure.

This means that once it's been deployed, higher rate streams will be more feasible as the servers of the content provider will only need the bandwidth for one connection in theory. So the average home ADSL user will be able to provide a 250Kbps+ stream to many users.

meh, only works for certain ISPs.. time to find a proxy  :shifty:

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This won't work if you can't connect to it due to your ISP not being multicast aware. Your packets HAVE to go through your ISP and if it doesn't understand them then they'll still get dropped. Proxy's are even less likely to be multicast enabled.

Not working for me either (in UK). Is that something to do with this from

http://www.bbc.co.uk/broadband/info/multicast.shtml :

How to get multicast

Almost all modern computers are capable of receiving multicast. You just need to first check that your internet service provider (ISP) is working (or peering) with the BBC to allow you to use BBC services through multicast. If they are, it's simple: just click on the relevant link and it should work in RealPlayer. Check below to make sure that your ISP is listed. If not you can always ask them why and encourage them to provide the service. Secondly you may need to check that your home broadband router is defaulting to multicast. If not it may need configuring.

Then a bit lower down it says:

Service Providers

JANET

C&W

Claranet

NetServices

Bogons.net

PIPEX

In progress :

Eclipse.net

Intervivo.net

Easynet

I'm with Tiscali, not on the list.

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F**kin ace, I'm with Eclipse.net - one of the best in the UK :D :D :D

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