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God, the opaque maximized windows STILL look like pus-dripping ass. What were they thinking?

functionality? maximizing a window inherently means you want to focus on that window. why should the borders be translucent to show whats going on behind them when you maximize the window which signifies the change of focus to one window.

gross analogy also

also on the vista team blog it states:

"Participants in the Windows Vista Customer Preview Program will also have access to RC2 very soon. We will update this post with links when the files are available for download. "

so prolly next week everyone will be able to download it. not just "a select few". a lot of us may have to wait until then if the x64 version isn't released on a torrent site this weekend.

tbh, I prefer the black. Although I'm not running vista, I am (and have been for a few months) running a few vista type skins in XP. A few have the black bar when you maxamise, while others still have the see through glass when its maxismised. Going from using the skins, the bar going black is a hell of a lot nice looking and tidier than it staying see through IMO.

functionality? maximizing a window inherently means you want to focus on that window.

Functionality? Are you serious? It provides no functional advantage. And, as you point out, the act of maximizing a window inherently focuses you on that window. Hence, there's no need for additional focus, since the ENTIRE SCREEN is filled with the window anyway. Besides, based on your argument, all focused windows (maximized or not) should be opaque to reduce the amount of "background" you can see through that window. Clear, confident, confused?

...no new ... UI changes. :(

it makes no sense. they will give us all eye-candies at rtm? these things have to be tested. i dont understand it. if the testers dont tell they about the "good old" icons, they would never change them.

now they will give us the visual stuff only with the rtm, thats mean if it will be buggy, it will be silly. shame on them if it will happen.

Functionality? Are you serious? It provides no functional advantage. And, as you point out, the act of maximizing a window inherently focuses you on that window. Hence, there's no need for additional focus, since the ENTIRE SCREEN is filled with the window anyway. Besides, based on your argument, all focused windows (maximized or not) should be opaque to reduce the amount of "background" you can see through that window. Clear, confident, confused?

You reckon Microsoft randomly thought like "Oh, how about maximized windows have a black border?!!" ? I'm sure it took them a lot more time to work out what it should look like, and make it look like that, than it would to make it transparent. IMO it looks silly and messy if a maximized window has transparent borders.

it makes no sense. they will give us all eye-candies at rtm? these things have to be tested. i dont understand it. if the testers dont tell they about the "good old" icons, they would never change them.

now they will give us the visual stuff only with the rtm, thats mean if it will be buggy, it will be silly. shame on them if it will happen.

What visual stuff? As far as I know, the only "Visual stuff" missing is the bootscreen - which certainly doesn't need to be "tested" by a million people. The sounds aren't visual, but how can sounds be buggy anyway?

it makes no sense. they will give us all eye-candies at rtm? these things have to be tested. i dont understand it. if the testers dont tell they about the "good old" icons, they would never change them.

now they will give us the visual stuff only with the rtm, thats mean if it will be buggy, it will be silly. shame on them if it will happen.

explain how a bootscreen and a few new sounds can be buggy? I agree with their actions. They have to keep at least a little bit to surprise people at rtm.

explain how a bootscreen and a few new sounds can be buggy? I agree with their actions. They have to keep at least a little bit to surprise people at rtm.

Yeah, there will be surprises, im sure, and i want them to be surprise, too :)

There will be tweaks on the GUI, i think this theme and the aero stuff is just the basement of "something new". They will tweak it for rtm. im sure. and that stuff should be tested well.

And there is the question of Boot Manager. seriously, they will keep this win95 like boot manager? they must be kidding. if linux can do it (since years...), windows should do it too.

ok, its wont be a revolution, we know, but it should not be a downgrade.

im using vista (and longhorn) for a while, and i love it! really! but im missing the "new" visual stuff. but ok, i will wait (what else could i do... :D ) for rtm.

Probably less drivers for the 64 bit version. I'm using 32 bit with my AMD64.

I am running build 5728 for x64 on my HP Pavilion notebook with AMD Turion64 x2. I just have some driver missing, like the ones for the built-in webcam and the sound recording system, but I was able to find almost all the others.

I'm running RC1 without defender&sidebar enabled-(only 1 gig memory),It works well except for Realtek drivers-(they only have Vista Beta 2) wrong version! Hope they can do update so I can use" Skype" before they start charging for it in Jan.'07! RC1 doesn't recognize my microphone. :|

I've just tried to dl from Connect using direct link based on the information given so far and it forward me to login.live.com and have my live.com ID to log in... wonder what happens if I log in lol

Probably Jasper Rine, the FBI, MS, federal marshals, and several different covert GPS-tracking agencies will be after you if you dare login to that site.

Yeah, there will be surprises, im sure

They will tweak it for rtm. im sure.

Oh, good. I'm so relieved that you're sure there will be significant changes at RTM.

Hm. Aero Glass worked on my PC with RC1 and build 5728; with RC2 it doesn't, even after installing the nVidia drivers. Any ideas?

My hardware configuration:

AMD Sempron 3000+

512 MBytes RAM

GeForce 6200 with 256 MBytes RAM

Any help would be appreciated.

Well, I've upgraded from 5728 to RC2 5744 and see nothing new... Yeah, the new color for maximized windows, new icons, but that's it. No boot screen, no sound.

But it did upgrade without any problem. All my apps from 5728 are working 100%, no question asked because Vista takes all the information from the previous installation.

I'm quite happy, works well and finally think it's going to be a good OS at RTM.

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