The Teej Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 http://www.joystiq.com/2008/11/18/nxe-netf...uddenly-gimped/Sony crying. Wow, that's actually pretty underhanded (if it is indeed Sony pulling out at the last minute). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/668970-official-new-xbox-experience-or-fall-2008-update/page/29/#findComment-590146578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted November 18, 2008 Veteran Share Posted November 18, 2008 http://www.joystiq.com/2008/11/18/nxe-netf...uddenly-gimped/Sony crying. What's new :rolleyes: Sony ftfl (N) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/668970-official-new-xbox-experience-or-fall-2008-update/page/29/#findComment-590146582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snakehn Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 F*** Sony Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/668970-official-new-xbox-experience-or-fall-2008-update/page/29/#findComment-590146602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BajiRav Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 http://www.joystiq.com/2008/11/18/nxe-netf...uddenly-gimped/Sony crying. Was about to post that. If someone needed proof that Sony as a company is bad :p it's this. **** them. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/668970-official-new-xbox-experience-or-fall-2008-update/page/29/#findComment-590146730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kushan Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Oh come on, people, if Microsoft owned a publishing company like Sony does, they'd do the same thing. Besides, the company responsible for this, although owned by sony, operates almost entirely independantly. There's still Sony-owned IP's on the 360. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/668970-official-new-xbox-experience-or-fall-2008-update/page/29/#findComment-590146740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spenser.d Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Oh come on, people, if Microsoft owned a publishing company like Sony does, they'd do the same thing.Besides, the company responsible for this, although owned by sony, operates almost entirely independantly. There's still Sony-owned IP's on the 360. I doubt it. Generally companies that are competing in one aspect of business are perfectly happy working together on others. Sony's Colombia Pictures isn't competing with the Xbox 360 so there's no reason for this. -Spenser Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/668970-official-new-xbox-experience-or-fall-2008-update/page/29/#findComment-590146886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kushan Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Actually they ARE competing now. Don't forget, Sony launched their own video marketplace just after E3. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/668970-official-new-xbox-experience-or-fall-2008-update/page/29/#findComment-590146908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spenser.d Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Actually they ARE competing now. Don't forget, Sony launched their own video marketplace just after E3. No. The Console divisions of both companies are competing. That's it. Sony's movie divisions are not competing with anything of Microsofts and it doesn't make sense to say that they are in competition over this. Why would Sony pull that from the system. They can offer their **** up on both video marketplaces and it doesn't even matter which one someone buys it from - Sony gets money off of it. -Spenser Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/668970-official-new-xbox-experience-or-fall-2008-update/page/29/#findComment-590146922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshBluebird Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Actually they ARE competing now. Don't forget, Sony launched their own video marketplace just after E3. thats not columbia though. As said, generally, companies are willing to work together unless their competing with each other in that specific area. Its why toshiba and sony were working together with the cell, but fighting each other with HDDVD and Bluray at the same time. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/668970-official-new-xbox-experience-or-fall-2008-update/page/29/#findComment-590146926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
magik Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Wow. **** you Sony. **** you indeed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/668970-official-new-xbox-experience-or-fall-2008-update/page/29/#findComment-590147262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted November 19, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted November 19, 2008 Oh come on, people, if Microsoft owned a publishing company like Sony does, they'd do the same thing.Besides, the company responsible for this, although owned by sony, operates almost entirely independantly. There's still Sony-owned IP's on the 360. Kushan don't post sensible things, you know the only acceptable reply is to say "**** Sony". Get with the times :rolleyes: It's not ideal for 360 owners no, but it's hardly suprising. Nintendo recently blocked Goldeneye, a single game, from even getting to MS. For now, however, Sony Pictures Entertainment films available for streaming through Netflix — including “Superbad,” “We Own The Night” and others — will remain blocked on Xbox 360, until Sony says otherwise. Some are available, maybe others will come. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/668970-official-new-xbox-experience-or-fall-2008-update/page/29/#findComment-590147298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kushan Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Hey guys, THE NXE IS OUT! Well, sort of! If you installed the "Leaked" update, you can NOW connect back to live and download the rest of it, the restriction has been lifted. Apparently things are going slow, it's possible they haven't allocated server bandwidth yet or it's just going to get worse come the official release, either way I'd advise people to get stuck in NOW! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/668970-official-new-xbox-experience-or-fall-2008-update/page/29/#findComment-590147322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
magik Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Kushan don't post sensible things, you know the only acceptable reply is to say "**** Sony".Get with the times :rolleyes: It's not ideal for 360 owners no, but it's hardly suprising. Nintendo recently blocked Goldeneye, a single game, from even getting to MS. Some are available, maybe others will come. Make no mistake about it. If the shoes were on the other foot then all the same. People would be **** Microsoft just as well and you know it. So don't even try to play that card. :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/668970-official-new-xbox-experience-or-fall-2008-update/page/29/#findComment-590147336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted November 19, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted November 19, 2008 Make no mistake about it. If the shoes were on the other foot then all the same. People would be **** Microsoft just as well and you know it. So don't even try to play that card. :p Microsoft don't own any movie studios. Just seems like they want their own movies exclusive to their system. I don't believe it's the case for renting movies on marketplace, it's just Netflix right? edit: I read it properly "As watching instantly becomes a more prominent part of the Netflix service, our goal is to have all of our streaming content licensed for all of our partner devices. We're doing well in this area, but it will take some time before we fully achieve that goal. Today, titles regularly come in and out of license and there is a natural ebb and flow to what we have on license at any given point in time. In the case of Xbox 360, a few hundred titles are temporarily unavailable to be streamed via the Xbox game console. Those titles are still available to be watched on subscribers' computers and on TVs via other partner devices, and we hope they'll be licensed for Xbox 360 shortly." Licensing between Sony and Netflix it is, but only to the 360. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/668970-official-new-xbox-experience-or-fall-2008-update/page/29/#findComment-590147368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kushan Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 In all likliness, it's probably more due to a ToS condition between Sony and Netflix regarding their competitors. Even though they may not (currently) directly compete, chances are someone, somewhere fired off a legal notice and they've taken them off while they renegotiate. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/668970-official-new-xbox-experience-or-fall-2008-update/page/29/#findComment-590147374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
magik Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Microsoft don't own any movie studios.Just seems like they want their own movies exclusive to their system. I don't believe it's the case for renting movies on marketplace, it's just Netflix right? I don't know if you've purposefully ignored my point or just didn't get it, but what I was saying was that if the tables were turned and Microsoft did own a movie studio and Sony made an agreement with a movie distributor to offer their services on their console and Microsoft were to disallow such distribution that people would be angry at Microsoft all the same. Of course, this is all hypothetical because Microsoft doesn't own a movie studio, etc ... In all likliness, it's probably more due to a ToS condition between Sony and Netflix regarding their competitors. Even though they may not (currently) directly compete, chances are someone, somewhere fired off a legal notice and they've taken them off while they renegotiate. I'm sure that will happen as well. Sony is simply going to ask for more money and all we can hope for is that NetFlix agrees. When/if that does happen, I will definitely be getting a NetFlix subscription. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/668970-official-new-xbox-experience-or-fall-2008-update/page/29/#findComment-590147388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
winlonghorn Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 F*** Sony I agree! The only thing that they have ever done truly correctly is walkman. lol. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/668970-official-new-xbox-experience-or-fall-2008-update/page/29/#findComment-590147414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnast Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Well, sort of! If you installed the "Leaked" update, you can NOW connect back to live and download the rest of it, the restriction has been lifted. Apparently things are going slow, it's possible they haven't allocated server bandwidth yet or it's just going to get worse come the official release, either way I'd advise people to get stuck in NOW! Hmm...I've been patiently waiting for this, but I guess there's no point in waiting anymore. Was I right in thinking that you could install the update VIA thumb drive? If so, then I'll finally be joining the club tonight. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/668970-official-new-xbox-experience-or-fall-2008-update/page/29/#findComment-590147500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kushan Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 That is correct =) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/668970-official-new-xbox-experience-or-fall-2008-update/page/29/#findComment-590147520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnast Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 ^ Nice! Thanks. :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/668970-official-new-xbox-experience-or-fall-2008-update/page/29/#findComment-590147532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
giga Veteran Posted November 19, 2008 Veteran Share Posted November 19, 2008 That is correct =) Wait how does this work? Extract the rar or keep it intact? It won't brick my system will it.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/668970-official-new-xbox-experience-or-fall-2008-update/page/29/#findComment-590147570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maeby Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 ah nice, blinking red lights. **** this, im done with xbox unbelievable Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/668970-official-new-xbox-experience-or-fall-2008-update/page/29/#findComment-590147572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kushan Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Extract the rar so you have a folder called $systemupdate, put that FOLDER on a USB thumb drive, so you have X:\$systemupdate with a file inside that folder. Then just plug it into your 360 and when you turn it on, it'll ask you to update. It wont brick your system unless you do something silly (like turn it off mid-update). All these updates are signed by Microsoft, there's no way to create a "bad" one that the 360 will install. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/668970-official-new-xbox-experience-or-fall-2008-update/page/29/#findComment-590147576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AimLXJ Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Awsome, downloading as of now :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/668970-official-new-xbox-experience-or-fall-2008-update/page/29/#findComment-590147580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathachew Veteran Posted November 19, 2008 Veteran Share Posted November 19, 2008 Hey guys, THE NXE IS OUT!Well, sort of! If you installed the "Leaked" update, you can NOW connect back to live and download the rest of it, the restriction has been lifted. Apparently things are going slow, it's possible they haven't allocated server bandwidth yet or it's just going to get worse come the official release, either way I'd advise people to get stuck in NOW! I can confirm this to be true! I just installed the update from my flash drive and when I signed into my account, it prompted me to update. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/668970-official-new-xbox-experience-or-fall-2008-update/page/29/#findComment-590147596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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