official Destiny

[HawkMan]

Why are you not supposed to be there until 20? Crucible is balanced.. it doesn't matter so much when it comes to weapons and damage.. so a player level 6 can dominate players level 27. Doesn't matter.

 

Not sure why think you shouldn't be in crucible until level 20? I know people who have done Crucible almost exclusively.. haven't done missions really beyond the initial few.. then went on to Crucible and now they are level 25-26. This is why Crucible has it's own armory and quartermaster.

 

The crucible is NOT balanced between a low level an a lvl 20, much less a lvl 24+

 

you can get some kills but the high level has a huge advantage, if you don't know this, you don't know how the crucible "balancing" works and I suggest you read up on it. 

[-T- Member]

The crucible is NOT balanced between a low level an a lvl 20, much less a lvl 24+

 

you can get some kills but the high level has a huge advantage, if you don't know this, you don't know how the crucible "balancing" works and I suggest you read up on it. 

 

The Crucible is bloody awful, I hated every moment I spent there on the bounty I had collected. Such an awful mismatch of players and a massively flawed rewards system

[HawkMan]

once you get to lvl 20 it's not so bad. I'm not sure it's great fun but... it.s ok... well what primarily ruins both it and other elements of the high level game is that everything is such a effin grind. there's no sense of accomplishment or going anywhere. whihc would have been ok if it was just a shooter without RPG elements and gear rewards. but... it's not...

[Emn1ty]

once you get to lvl 20 it's not so bad. I'm not sure it's great fun but... it.s ok... well what primarily ruins both it and other elements of the high level game is that everything is such a effin grind. there's no sense of accomplishment or going anywhere. whihc would have been ok if it was just a shooter without RPG elements and gear rewards. but... it's not...

 

Destiny would have been better if the game had any form of a soul. It doesn't. It lacks character to make the grind bearable. It seriously makes me wonder if they lost all the best creative talent to 343.

[HawkMan]

Destiny would have been better if the game had any form of a soul. It doesn't. It lacks character to make the grind bearable. It seriously makes me wonder if they lost all the best creative talent to 343.

 

It's got the basis of one, and the potential for a good story, but it never tells the story.

 

What is the darkness.

There are 4 enemy rations(and a 5th)

None of them are explained

Why are they all here

Why are they not destroyed

How come they all exist after fighting each other

Why did the traveller change the gravity to 1g on all planets(that's a double question as it also applies to Bungee why doesn't the moon, mars and venus have different gravity for more interesting gameplay diversity)

At what point did we originally die, before the travelers arrival? Seems unlikely since we're found in the middle of post traveller war wreckage. So why do we apparently know nothing.

[GotBored]

Destiny would have been better if the game had any form of a soul. It doesn't. It lacks character to make the grind bearable. It seriously makes me wonder if they lost all the best creative talent to 343.

Considering the fact that 343 was created purely to develop halo games in between bungie making them and the fact that all they have made are halo games which always received negative responses compared to the bungie Halo releases I'd say that is unlikely.

[DirtyLarry Veteran]

Watch out everyone. I just finally hit Level 6 last night! :punk:

Honestly I am extremely happy I only get to play this game now and then, as if I did not, I am very, very positive I would not enjoy it at all with all the grinding and how progression is handled. As I have shared I am not an MMO player, and it is because of the grinding and farming, among many other reasons, that I never got into them.

[ichi]

The game feels like they created this big ambitious universe and then got afraid of the story affecting that universe in a meaningful way.

[FrostAM]

I hit level 13 last night and found my first rare! It's a helmet that increases my melee speed, decreases my grenade cool down and gives me more of the "super bar" for each kill. More Nova Bombs for all! :D

 

I'm now super addicted to leveling up my weapons too. The leveled up sights on some of the guns are incredible. I've also just discovered the joy of using a hand cannon. They're stupidly powerful (in a fun way). 

 

I really wish they would have let you 

keep the Sword of Darkness. Having a melee weapon would be cool, Maybe they'll release a version of the Energy Sword from Halo has an easter egg :p

[techbeck]

To many requirements for legendary armor.  I probably will never get it.  I hate playing with pugs as they either bail during the middle of a game, or just plain suck.  I am not the greatest player either, but I am not the worst either.

[GotBored]

Just bought the game, hopefully get a chance to play it this weekend :)

[psionicinversion]

i feel like im getting really bored of destiny now, im lvl 21 and after you complete the story (i finished mine at lvl18) its just an endless grind of vanguard missions and bounties so you get high enough faction level with vanguard and get enough marks for the gear. unless you like crucible to theres absolutely nothing else to do well till your 26 and can raid. Destiny is just a purely average game and thats it. Its only got length cus of endless grinding. They were right though the game does change after lvl 20.... it gets ridiculously boring and monotonous

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Well I'm back after vacation, and hoping to get to play some Destiny tonight. Reading over that last 5 or 6 pages, and I have some comments. So I might be bringing up "old" conversations, but here I go anyway...

 

No matchmaking for heroics/raids - I agree with Hawkman. The level of stupid behind not including matchmaking for raids or heroic strikes is beyond my comprehension. Actually, it makes me angry, because I will literally never see the raid content due to that design decision. Not including it for raids is dumb, and an artificial barrier for no good reason, but not including it for heroic strikes...when literally every other strike has matchmaking...is some kind of epic stupidity that they must be doing to purposely troll us. I simply cannot accept that Bungie, of all developers, is the one making awful decisions with matchmaking.

 

There are literally zero reasons for excluding matchmaking for these two modes, when literally everything about our guardians can be categorized, compared, and evaluated programmatically. Hell, even whether we have a mic plugged in or not is a logical test. And they're already reading doing it because you can see in the roster listing who has a mic or who doesn't be the little speaker icon next to their name. The only thing they would need to add in order to make matchmaking viable for heroics and raids is some kind of vote-kick system. That's it. The game already warns you when you join a matchmaking mode (crucible, strikes) so just keep that for heroics and raids. And this fits with the multiple tiered difficulties too. The "normal" version should be hard, but possible with a pug and the "hard" mode should be possible but unlikely, unless you really communicate and work together. Novel idea? No! Because there are already tiered difficulties for raids and heroics.

 

Just a stupid, stupid decision on Bungie's part. There is literally no supporting argument that makes sense.

 

Crucible balance - the crucible is absolutely NOT balanced between a 5 and a 20. Exotics, legendaries, and even some rares have special perks that give the player a complete advantage over someone using common or uncommon gear. True, the weapon damage, defense, and toughness is normalized but the extra abilities that a 20 or 26 has over a 5 and the specials on their gear creates a cluster-f of awfulness for low-level people.

 

That in addition to the fact that you don't (read: can't) earn crucible marks until level 18 is why it's clear that Bungie doesn't want you playing in the crucible until end-game. I don't see how you could argue otherwise. Sure it's possible, but it's not recommended.

[Boz]

The crucible is NOT balanced between a low level an a lvl 20, much less a lvl 24+

 

you can get some kills but the high level has a huge advantage, if you don't know this, you don't know how the crucible "balancing" works and I suggest you read up on it. 

 

what is that huge advantage?

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i'm a lvl 25ish & tired of being put on teams with people who are only lvl 6

 

also the legendary is a joke with all the crap you have to get for it

[Emn1ty]

what is that huge advantage?

 

Items that give you more resources, resilience, and more damage on top of the base statistics of armor/weapons

 

Also, not sure if this got posted but the Angry Joe review:

 

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what is that huge advantage?

I mean, purely from a 5v20 perspective: double/triple jumps, different types of grenades, extra agility/recovery, extra shields (titans), invisibility, etc.

 

From an exotic weapon vs uncommon: everything about the weapon other than damage, specials like "every missed shot becomes another bullet in the magazine" or "radar is still active while zoomed" or "become invisible while zoomed", faster reloads, recharge grenades/melee faster, etc.

 

All of those things are not normalized, and provide a clear advantage. And those are the normal enhancements I could pull off the top of my head. There are some exotic weapons out there with crazy OP bonuses.

[Emn1ty]

I mean, purely from a 5v20 perspective: double/triple jumps, different types of grenades, extra agility/recovery, extra shields (titans), invisibility, etc.

 

From an exotic weapon vs uncommon: everything about the weapon other than damage, specials like "every missed shot becomes another bullet in the magazine" or "radar is still active while zoomed" or "become invisible while zoomed", faster reloads, recharge grenades/melee faster, etc.

 

All of those things are not normalized, and provide a clear advantage. And those are the normal enhancements I could pull off the top of my head. There are some exotic weapons out there with crazy OP bonuses.

 

Weapon special abilities should have been stripped, too.

[HawkMan]

what is that huge advantage?

 

Several of them have been mentioned several times in this thread.

 

boils down to Items and skills. 

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As much as I love Destiny, I actually agree with AngryJoe's review. The game is fun, but there are just so dumb design decisions and others that just scream of Activision tampering.

[Luc2k]

AJ's review

A very good review apart from that annoying Activision guy shtick. It managed to kill every last drop of anaemic enthusiasm over Destiny (possibly) coming to PC.

[DirtyLarry Veteran]

Legit question here, even though it is going to sound as if I am ###### on the game, which if the answer is Yes, then perhaps I am.

So I for the most part have been playing the game on my own. I am coming up on Level 10. Really am sticking to the campaign right now.

Do the campaign missions ever change from Go to Point, do something at Point, then fight off hordes of enemies and usually one "boss" enemy.

Seriously besides the optional Patrol missions which vary things up ever so slightly, that seems to be the extent of the campaign.

So is that all I have to look forward to?

If so, I believe my time with Destiny may be drawing to a close.

TIA,

DL

[Boz]

Guys I need more people to play raid. I have a few but want dedicated folks.

If you are 27+ level and want to do Raid add me on XBL Xbox one - Bozzified.

We have completed the raid last week but we want to do it this week. I have the save at the last boss sections as fireteam leader this week so it should be fairly easy to do. There is a strategy and all.. We usually finish the last boss in 30-40 mins with a failure or two.

If you want me to get you into my favs, add me as a friend and shoot me a message With Neowin greeting so i know you are from here.

[techbeck]

Been farming the loot cave on earth.  Gone a lot of blues and a few purples.  Tried to level points to get legendary armor but players suck.  Meh...maybe I will get enough blue engrams and they will turn out to be legendary/purples.

 

If anyone has not farmed the cave, pretty cool.  Stand back and keep shooting the enemies at the cave.  They keep spawning and coming out and in about 30-45 minutes, I got ton of green items (salvage to craft materials you will need) and about 15 blues.  Out of those blues, 2 legendary items.  Basically when you decode the engrams, you get a special package when you level your engram skill.  There is normally several people shooting the enemies at the cave and everyone gets loot.

 

Farmed mars for relic iron for a few. Have a couple full stacks.  Chests respawn and is an easy run.  Basically 4 chests every 3 minutes.  Can contain blues, greens, relic iron, glimmer.  But if you are looking for the most loot, then do the cave.

[spenser.d]

Legit question here, even though it is going to sound as if I am ###### on the game, which if the answer is Yes, then perhaps I am.

So I for the most part have been playing the game on my own. I am coming up on Level 10. Really am sticking to the campaign right now.

Do the campaign missions ever change from Go to Point, do something at Point, then fight off hordes of enemies and usually one "boss" enemy.

Seriously besides the optional Patrol missions which vary things up ever so slightly, that seems to be the extent of the campaign.

So is that all I have to look forward to?

If so, I believe my time with Destiny may be drawing to a close.

TIA,

DL

Nope, that's pretty much all there is.