Liger Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 wow 40k! thats insaneHey if someppl donated 40k to me i would do a runner =D seriously download sites like loki, supr etc dont last forever, why would you bother donating to keep it alive.. its not like you can hand over 40k to a judge and say here you go we are staying open now.. Ah well.. you will learn :p 585449948[/snapback] Yes the naiveness amazes me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorwing Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 hmmm.. intresting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xplatinum Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 /me looks at his ET account and crosses his fingers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davebo Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 Im talking to "lowkee" on MSN, he said that the he shut down the site because the judge apparently ordered it to be shut down untill the trial is complete.If you look were the images are they are at Loki's server: http://lokitorrent.com/mpaa.gif This proves that he shut down the site, and not the MPAA. 585447778[/snapback] So - what's he saying about the MPAA press release? Ask him... http://www.mpaa.org/CurrentReleases/ The MPAA's efforts to date have resulted in a 40 percent reduction in the number of servers that continue to operate. One such site that will no longer exist is LokiTorrent?one of the largest BitTorrent host servers. The operator of that site, Edward Webber, agreed to not only pay a substantial settlement with even greater financial penalties for any further such actions, but by Court Order must provide the MPAA with access to and copies of all logs and server data related to his illegal BitTorrent activities, which will provide a roadmap to others who have used LokiTorrent to engage in illegal activities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moeburn Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 Its wonderful to live in a country where its illegal to check to see if you're doing something illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddcrap Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 Well, in some amazement I doubt that lowkee would lie to me... Because he said he was confident that he was going to court. ( a while back) but hey if you had 40 grand you'd lie to anyone you can bye all the g5's you want with that. But, maybe since he lives in Maine.. someone will track him down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kombolcha Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 I wouldn't worry about it too much. Its pretty well known by now. They even recently ran a huge article in our local newspaper about BT and mentioned The Pirate Bay (including a URL) and its responses to legal threats. 585448830[/snapback] **** :angry: pirate bay is another one of my favs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chouzan Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 please read this post! do not skip passed, this one is IMPORTANT.does this means that lowkee sold us ALL OUT! he gave up logs and all information about DONATORS! and people who signed up and download! meaning were all in serious ****! how can somebody do this to US? why couldn't he just destroy all records of BT users, donators and other information, and call it quits? the ****** gave us all up! i wish i could ring his neck right now source: isohunt.com 585449053[/snapback] Ring his neck for involving yourself in something illegal and expecting one man to take the blow of a thousand? Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddcrap Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 it truly is a shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fkid Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 You are a fool if you give money to a site like this... Gullible un-evolved monkeys! Pathetic... I bet some guys in here remember Godabuzz... He also got tons of money, in his case for a 'server' he was going to purchase to improve the site. Instead, he used the tens of thousands of dollars to fight for his lively hood in court. Money makes the world go around, but it also reduces court sentences and helps people live better after crime convictions. I am glad they are gone... F*ck 'em! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddcrap Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 (edited) On several BitTorrent and P2P forums I've have noticed reports that LokiTorrent actually has been holding out hoping that the MPAA will make an offer to shut them down rather then wage on with the expensive pending lawsuit. We have decided to research this rumor ourselves to see what this popular torrent site is up to. Original this was posted on p2pforum but has vanished... We are posting this story for the public awareness. Some things we have noticed about the popular bit torrent site Lokitorrent that have raised some red flags is that they started collecting a US$30,000 legal fund to defend their site before they even were being sued! Even more odd was once they were sued they raised this amount to US$30,000 per month in legal fees plus US$4000 per month in site costs. To us this all sounds kind of fishy. Our question is why? After several failed attempts to reach Lokitorrent site admins looking for answers we went and contacted the MPAA which was more than happy to state that yes Lokitorrent and the MPAA were in negotiations and that the current offer could not be disclosed nor could the terms if the deal were to be reached. We all know bit torrent site admins take pride in their grassroots, non-profit image however most sites make huge amounts of money. Suprnova which claims to have shutdown due to MPAA pressure and to finish working on their Exeem project for their client is completely just lies. Suprnova was making alot of money. Figure if they had 2,000,000 visitors per day (which is what lokitorrent claims to have, suprnova many estimate had closer to 5,000,000) they would have made close to US$90,000 per month just from per-click ads. Do the math, (all you blog site admins will be kicking yourself because you know this is true) if even only 1.5% (my blog site even gets about 6%, so 1.5% is really low estimate) click an ad, even if by mistake they get an average of $.10 per click so they would be making US$3000 per day times 30 days, not to mention those annoying high paying popups. So now you are asking why would Suprnova shutdown if they were making so much? Well the answer is simple, with Exeem they have much lower costs as their whole system can run on 2 or 3 servers and their effort to maintain those 2 or 3 servers is alot lower as well when you consider they had more then 25 servers going at their peak. Exeem also will make them a ton of money through Cydoor. Some estimate they can easily make $1 per user per day which would put them at close to US$300,000 per day with their current user base. Cydoor is a information harvesting company. They harvest the users info to either sell to marketing companies and spammers or to use your info to hit you with ads directly for their clients. By using Exeem these companies know everything about you just by monitoring your online actions. You go to your email, they now know your email address, you fill in a form they have your name and home address, the information they can harvest is limitless and it is totally legal because when you install Exeem the user license informs you of this if you were to actually read it. If you dont believe me click here and read the part about Cydoor carefully. So why do Lokitorrent and Suprnova care so much about the public knowing about all this? They care because if you knew about it their image as being modern day Robinhoods would be tarnished and they would not be able to sucker you their user into donating Thousands of dollars to them. Our prediction is this Lokitorrent will sign a deal with the MPAA to shutdown, they will claim to shutdown saying that do to lack of donations they ca not afford to fight the case. The Lokitorrent admins save face with the BitTorrent community and continue their mufftorrent porn site and everyone goes on thinking they were just underdogs that could not afford to fight. We would actually like to hear a reply from lokitorrent or suprnova on this actually and we welcome their reply. Again this is all just still brain food and speculation at this point. Now for some real good torrent sites here is a list of some really good Bit torrent sites on the web. We are not say that they are all non-profit but that they are not trying to play off a fake image. btsource mybittorrent bi-torrent isohunt torrentreactor Edited February 11, 2005 by oddcrap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillerMCB Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 So does this explain what is shown at lokitorrent right now?: www.lokitorrent.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddcrap Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Lyle Global Moderator Posted February 11, 2005 Global Moderator Share Posted February 11, 2005 god damnit. why do we need 28 threads over loki torrents? there GONE, BYE BYE, not coming back. WE GET THE PICTURE! if you haven't read the other THREADS somebody close this please :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srizo Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 wowo thats one hell of a assumption. until now i never bothered to look at a diffrent point of veiw.. you brother just opened both of my eyes. we will see how far this goes.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-n-t Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 there goes bittorent. now we need another new break through in p2p. BT has gone the way of fast track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddcrap Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 Because this eplains the reason why they shut down.. please don't close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zirus Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 interesting. I never knew they made so much money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddcrap Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 Yes, the income is incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted February 11, 2005 Veteran Share Posted February 11, 2005 Seriously, why do people act so shocked? They ran a site that promoted piracy. Did you really think they were 100% altruistic in their motives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdcase Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liger Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 Seriously, why do people act so shocked? They ran a site that promoted piracy. Did you really think they were 100% altruistic in their motives? 585450072[/snapback] :laugh: True. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddcrap Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 Seriously, why do people act so shocked? They ran a site that promoted piracy. Did you really think they were 100% altruistic in their motives? 585450072[/snapback] Yeah, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZOOzzoo Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 Justice served. (Y) I hope they do something smarter than what RIAA did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddcrap Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 It's a shame that all the people with eXeem have to have cydoor on their machine to get sloneck money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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