Official WWDC 2005 Keynote Discussion

[Matthew S. 1,148]

gah I liked Mac OS X an PPC :'(

[Chad 0]

10:26am PDT - ?Now, let?s go to the big topic: Transitions.?

10:27am PDT - 1994-1996 Moto 68K -> PowerPC. ?I wasn?t hear then, but from everything I hear the team did a great job.? 2001-2003: OS9 - OS X.

10:28am PDT - ?It?s time for a third transition. And yes, (puts up slide that says): It?s true.? Next slide is one word: ?Why??

10:29am PDT - ?I stood up two years ago and promised this (3.0G PowerMac), and we haven?t been able to deliver.? Steve says it?s bigger than that, though. No roadmap for the future based on PowerPC - they can?t see a future.

10:30am PDT - Intel offers not just increased performance, but reduced power consumption. Transition will be complete by WWDC ?07.

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No need to repost it here. just discuss.

btw, where are you getting the info?

[-Dave- 13]

10:32 am This entire last half hour the keynote has been running on an Intel box running Mac OS X.

Haha!

[Brandon Live 232]

steve is wearing all black, because he is at the funeral of apple right now

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Dude, I'm known far and wide as a harsh Apple critic. But this is quite possibly the smartest move they've made in a long time.

Jobs hasn't said yet if there will be an OS X for "regular" PCs. It may very well be hardware locked to Apple's systems (Although I'm certain someone will work around it).

But either way, this is a smart move.

[Steven 80]

10:31 AM: The Intel Processor switch transition will be long term, with most of the product line in the Intel based chips, June 2007. Steve notes that the Marklar rumors that have been circulating for years are true, that the last five versions of Mac OS X has been compiled for both the PPC and Intel based chips.

Sweetness. :D

[jerry 0]

Steve demo'ing a Universal binary; that works with PPC & x86 versions.

[VGVL 0]

Its true. :angry:

I guess now is a perfect time to buy all the Macs I'll ever need, before I get an Intel Inside! Apple crapbox.

[vincent 155]

X86 OS from Apple. Oh god this is a great time to be into computing

[Brandon Live 232]

Besides Dothan, Intel Pentium Dual Core chips are power-sucking monsters!!!

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Compared to AMD chips, yes. Compared to IBM chips, no.

[Freakz 2]

steve is wearing all black, because he is at the funeral of apple right now

[Novaoblivion 0]

I think this is actualy pretty cool I have never been a Mac person but I might try one once they switch to x86 :D

[Steven 80]

X86!!!! COULD MACOSX RUN ON PC!!!!!! :huh:

[KeR 84]

so the real Mac I have now will be special once the Intel based Macs come out.

[Ryan Hoffman 9]

10:32 am This entire last half hour all demos and keynotes have been running on Intel boxes running Mac OS X

*Tekmaven creams.

*Tekmaven wave's goodbye to Apple.

[kaffra 16]

10:33am PDT - ?As a matter of fact, this system I?ve been using here?? the keynote?s been running on a P4 3.6GHz all morning?

yea its x86 alright

[Garry 136]

Holy ****, as absurd as the rumour was I can't believe it's true. This is major! I think it's the best move for Apple by far, but it's a massive, massive gamble!

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Dazzla you're the only person I've seen who, like me, can see both sides of a very dangerous coin.

[TheWahbinator 0]

Mac OS X has been leading secret double life. Every Mac project build for Intel and PowerPC and Intel. Every release of Mac OS X has been built for both Intel and PowerPC-based Macs. For the last 5 years. Mac OS X is cross-platform by design. Apple's demo is on an Intel-based system. Jobs shows all Mac OS X Tiger features are already compatible with Intel-based processors. Not done yet. Will put into the developer hands to help Apple finish it.

NOES, it happened before the announcement! :omg: But why x86, isn't there a more efficient processor that Intel makes?

Now when is microsoft making Windows for PowerPCs :x

[Freakz 2]

bloody hell as if we didnt pick that up about xCode...

[Steven 80]

Intel Inside. Live it up macphiles. :D

Plunk! Da da da da!

[Ryan Hoffman 9]

ROFL.. giant conspiracy..

What if, there really is no x86 OS X, and Apple is using PearPC for their demos... ROFL

[jasondefaoite 375]

Besides Dothan, Intel Pentium Dual Core chips are power-sucking monsters!!!

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The Pentium M is no power sucking monster

[Daybreak 1]

ooo.. Assuming Apple doesn't try to lockdown OSX to specific sets of hardware, adoption is going to massively increase :)

[TheWahbinator 0]

I think Microsoft has already made PowerPC versions of Windows :unsure:

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At the consumer level? :no:

[Chad 0]

This is one keynote i hope they broadcast later

[Hurmoth 518]

NOES, it happened before the announcement! :omg: But why x86, isn't there a more efficient processor that Intel makes??

Now when is microsoft making Windows for PowerPCs:xx

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I think Microsoft has already made PowerPC versions of Windows:unsure:: Remember that the XBOX360 OS is going to run on a PowerPC and I am guessing that it is a version of Windows (i.e. Windows XP Embedded PowerPC Edition?).

So when will I be able to buy an x86 copy of Mac OS X?