MVC's, the ones we missed

[Glowstick]

I think it's clear not everyone can be pleased, no matter what. I understand some of your points Tom but others seem just taken out of the wild, for example the subscriber only forum. Those people pay an extra, not obligatory, so Neowin gives them something extra back. I don't even the think that extra forum really makes us, non-subscribers, miss out on something.

The problem is, you don't know. Black box and all that. Might as well been complaining about you going on in there.

[Wannes]

The problem is, you don't know. Black box and all that. Might as well been complaining about you going on in there.

In the subscriber forum? With all due respect, I couldn't care less. There will always be people who hate me, who love me and the people in between. It doesn't bother me. I would like to be a subscriber but I'm waiting until they give us, people who live in the EU, the ability to pay via wire transfer since I don't have paypal. Either way, I'm not subscribing in order to have a fancy badge, a fancy forum or any other fance stuff but I'm subscribing to help out a community I've been part of for over 4 years (with some breaks).

If you mean the staff forum they will be probably talking about me and I know they have done so in the past. Once again, I couldn't care less. If there is something I did wrong I'll either see my warning level increase or receive a PM telling me to watch out. I don't need to know what's going on behind the scenes unless I'm part of it.

You could easily compare that with buying a plasma. You don't need to know what people do behind the scenes in order for you to get that plasma tv. The only thing you need is your tv and that's the most important thing in the end.

I'm aware Neowin has changed in it's policies, staff members, subscribers and normal members and it is different from 2004 but that's normal. As a community grows, a community changes.

@hasan: You could probably be missing out on something, something subscribers are talking about. However, you won't miss out on anything you came for. You'll still get your answers on your questions, you'll still find your daily news. The subscriber area is just something else, something extra. That's it.

[markwolfe Veteran]

The problem is, you don't know. Black box and all that. Might as well been complaining about you going on in there.

Good god. If you want to see what's going on in the subcriber forum, it is real easy. I've been there, and there really isn't anything secret. Just another subforum. No secret handshakes and discussion of which other members are paranoid about being talked about.

The MVC isn't hard to get into, either. Post well, help others, share knowledge. Even a few people who have made some waves and ruffled some feathers have gotten selected as MVC. Again, if you are curious about the content in there, it isn't much to see. Yet another subforum.

Finally, your reply also was in regard to the staff forums. I've been there, too. Guess what? They talk about forum issues. Work on identifying IP addresses of porn spammers. Make sure all staff is working together on the issues, so that one staffer isn't doing one thing and another doing the opposite. It is just coordination.

And, yes, all staffers (with the possible exception of Admins) are just members here. I was recruited into staff a few years ago. I wasn't imported from outside Neowin to help move threads to the correct sections. To edit out personal attacks and offensive language. Here's the kicker - I was minding my own business, just helping out people (primarily in the Linux section) and was asked if I would volunteer to help out.

If you want to imagine a caste system, go ahead. But it certainly seems you have a big chip on your shoulder about this.

[Konstanov]

I say Rappy gets one.

[Pretend]

What's Rappy done? Well except getting the forum post count up. lots

[Glowstick]

Good god. If you want to see what's going on in the subcriber forum, it is real easy. I've been there, and there really isn't anything secret. Just another subforum. No secret handshakes and discussion of which other members are paranoid about being talked about.

I'm not going to pay money for a peek. You didn't need to, from what I know, unless you're telling me mods have to pay to moderate the forum.

And anyway, did you notice that I used conditionals in my post? As I said, it's a blackbox and anything COULD go on in there.

Finally, your reply also was in regard to the staff forums. I've been there, too. Guess what? They talk about forum issues. Work on identifying IP addresses of porn spammers. Make sure all staff is working together on the issues, so that one staffer isn't doing one thing and another doing the opposite. It is just coordination.

Well, excuse me if I don't buy that only "job" related stuff goes on in the mod/admin section. Or that moderators are being objective. No human is objective, even less so when dealing about or judging over humans. Seen enough mods going rogue on various forums and basically disproving any assurances by the staff that everything's going on correctly. There may be a difference in severity, since Neowin isn't drama 4chan, but that's about it.

If what you said was the case, there's surely no reason why the decision making forums couldn't be transparent, could they? Like this, people also get more insight into why someone has been dealt with a certain way or why something's been decided to be that way. But obviously, no forum ever does this for apparent reasons.

If you want to imagine a caste system, go ahead. But it certainly seems you have a big chip on your shoulder about this.

I couldn't care less if there's actually a caste system or not, because if there is, there's no way this is going to change. I'm just stating my opinion on how I see things.

[Rappy Veteran]

I say Rappy gets one.

Thanks :)

Not up to us tho :)

[Slimy]

And anyway, did you notice that I used conditionals in my post? As I said, it's a blackbox and anything COULD go on in there.

a) No you didn't. b) No it can't, there are still rules.

[SacrificialSoldier]

a) No you didn't. b) No it can't, there are still rules.

And thank God for that!

[Rahul]

actually Rappy should get one because i think he has been around for quite some time !

As for me id like a black badge with the logo of a lady's boobies citing me as the Official Neowin Sex Guru

Or the dude who has to bring sex into almost every topic he gets into ;)

[ahmz]

I think the word you're looking for is "Pervert"? :p

[Fred Derf Veteran]

I think the word you're looking for is "Pervert"? :p

A "Neowin Pervert" badge? Perhaps Neovert for short?

[Rappy Veteran]

actually Rappy should get one because i think he has been around for quite some time !

As for me id like a black badge with the logo of a lady's boobies citing me as the Official Neowin Sex Guru

Or the dude who has to bring sex into almost every topic he gets into ;)

:blush:

[Wannes]

:blush:

You don't deserve a badge because you bypass the minimal charactersystem by using a smiley. ;)

[Rappy Veteran]

You don't deserve a badge because you bypass the minimal charactersystem by using a smiley. ;)

I could of typed "blushes" but the smiley said it all, a picture is worth a 1000 words ;)

[Huleboeren]

Thanks :)

Not up to us tho :)

Another vote for Rappy

s/he has done alot of work in Media Room covering most tv shows :yes:

[Wannes]

I could of typed "blushes" but the smiley said it all, a picture is worth a 1000 words ;)

It'd still be words/pictures without contributing to the community therefore not ready to enter the MVC group. ;) hihihi

[Pallab]

Rappy is definitely the most notable contributor to the media section constantly posting updates, trailers, spoilers and general info about various tv shows.

So yeah another vote for rappy.

[Wannes]

I do hope you realize I'm only teasing Rappy....

[Umbrello]

As I said before, people with views like that clearly missed the point.

MVCs are still regular members, it's just that our efforts have been recognised. We don't have any higher powers or privileges.

Not true. MVC's get more than just the badge of signifigance.

They also get: Enhanced forum permissions, no flood control, larger PM storage, a Blog and a dedicated MVC forum.

[Pallab]

I do hope you realize I'm only teasing Rappy....

lol yeah.. thts pretty obvious.

But I seriously think he contributes a lot to the media room.

[+StevoFC MVC]

Not true. MVC's get more than just the badge of signifigance.

They also get: Enhanced forum permissions, no flood control, larger PM storage, a Blog and a dedicated MVC forum.

Basically the same as the Subscribers. And most of us were already subscribers anyways before we got switched into the new group.

[Yusuf M. Veteran]

I thought only staff and current MVCs can nominate other members, but if it's worth anything I think Rappy deserves the badge. He's been a wonderful contributor to The Media Room.

[RadishTM Veteran]

At the moment MVC's can nominate, but staff have the final say.

Radish?

[Glowstick]

a) No you didn't.

Let me quote myself:

The problem is, you don't know. Black box and all that. Might as well been complaining about you going on in there.