Windows 7 Build 7100 RC (Changes/Bugs/Tweaks) Discussion

[Nagisan]

i have read that you cant upgrade from beta to rc .. then why can you on build 7100 from what i have noticed ??

Most of the leaks seem to have modified that cversion.ini that holds the earliest build you can upgrade from, by default its 7100.....from what I have it has been modified to allow upgrading from earlier versions (something MS themselves explain how to do, but they suggest not doing it).

So in short, these builds are supposedly the official RC builds, but (from what I read at least) the cversion.ini has already been modified so you can upgrade if you want.

(Again, this is just what I've read, my DL has not finished so I cannot confirm it)

[Zarpraz]

Is it faster?

Is it smaller - after full install?

I am aching to write an extensive performance and GUI functionality comparison between XP and 7, but other versions of 7 were rather slow. Has the CPU drain on the start menu been fixed (That thing that spikes up the CPU to 50% when poking around in Start Menu - MP3 files I think )?

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If you're going to write a comparison (why we need yet another I'm not sure) then perhaps it would be a good idea to actually use it yourself, not that comparing XP with a unrealsed product really means anything.

7100 = RC

7100 = newer than previous builds

Everyone is spreading fud that 1) 7100 isn't RC, and 2) 7100 is older than 7106, which it isn't.

Paul Thurrot shouldn't be classed as a reliable source, he has caused some of the recent headaches that say that Windows 7 is getting a new UI when it just isn't.

He's an awful lot more reliable than people like you who only think they know best. You obviously didn't read that MS had an important announcement re Windows 7 which could still be UI or theme related.

[Zarpraz]

ill be disappointed if the Released RC HAS THE BETA **** WALL!!! :(

Microsoft is doing well for the code i knw... but they are a little bak in the graphics department...

there are many small UI flaws..

Yeah because the wallpaper is SO important and SO hard to change, grow up.

[Ambroos]

Any word on if 3rd party codecs work in the RC?

Nobody ever said 3rd party codecs didn't work. WMP was just avoiding using external codecs if in-house codecs were around so everyone would enjoy hassle-free movie viewing.

[yakumo]

hi

does punkbuster still inflict problems ?

PB works just fine for some games, not at all for others.

It's for Evenbalance / PB to fix not MS.

eg.

Quake2Arena = no go.

QuakeLive = works just perfectly for me.

[+kpo6969 Subscriber¹]

I have RC installed. Don't notice really any difference over the last leaked build. Ya its RC, but nothing to get TOO excited about, as 7077 ran just as good as RC has so far for me.

Same for me

[giga Veteran]

Nobody ever said 3rd party codecs didn't work. WMP was just avoiding using external codecs if in-house codecs were around so everyone would enjoy hassle-free movie viewing.

So can WMP use third party codecs in 7100?

[maccik]

taking off the ''ei.cfg'' file in ISO you can install any version of 7: starter, basic, premium, professional and ultimate.

Can anybody confirm this is true ????????????????????

[ToneKnee]

If you're going to write a comparison (why we need yet another I'm not sure) then perhaps it would be a good idea to actually use it yourself, not that comparing XP with a unrealsed product really means anything.

He's an awful lot more reliable than people like you who only think they know best. You obviously didn't read that MS had an important announcement re Windows 7 which could still be UI or theme related.

Microsoft might be making an important announcement, but like people are pointing out (common sense) it'll most likely be a release date for Windows 7. A UI update is a bit late in the development, especially if Microsoft want to convince people than Windows 7 is coming out this year. It's RC, and like Brandon Live has even said, it's practically finished. It's just time to get rid of all the bugs before it gets released.

I never dismissed the fact that an updated theme might come into play, but like I keep saying, it's a bit late, and like Paul Thurrot said on his website about the 7100 release, from all the builds being a little different from each other, that much points out that Microsoft are happy with the way Windows 7 is. We've seen RC escrow builds with no UI difference or any clue of a new theme (only small changes like icons or Superbar effects), and we are seeing pre-RTM based builds which look the same as well.

Microsoft need to test anything they change, if they want to iron out problems, they don't want to spring new features/themes, because they need user input and that takes time.

taking off the ''ei.cfg'' file in ISO you can install any version of 7: starter, basic, premium, professional and ultimate.

Can anybody confirm this is true ????????????????????

Knock it off, there is no need for the caps, and yes, it's true, but your keys won't work. Grow up.

[tdrock]

7100 = RC

7100 = newer than previous builds

Everyone is spreading fud that 1) 7100 isn't RC, and 2) 7100 is older than 7106, which it isn't.

Paul Thurrot shouldn't be classed as a reliable source, he has caused some of the recent headaches that say that Windows 7 is getting a new UI when it just isn't.

thanks, I agree with you about Paul.

[DiEMOS]

all Paul said was Win7 MIGHT be getting a new UI. He confirms 7100 as RC 1 build.

[ractro]

Guys tried to upgrade from 7106 to 7100 -no go- cannot upgrade to older version/7106 is the more recent version. Darn :o

[hdood]

So can WMP use third party codecs in 7100?

Only for formats that aren't covered by the built-in codecs.

[Omen1393]

Has anybody here gone from 7000 to 7100 either from an upgrade or a fresh install? If so, is it worth it? It seems like there's more bugs with every build (Of course this is the bug forums) But are there any major changes? I know of the UI changes but in terms of performance how much faster is 7100 over 7000?

[Livin in a box]

Has anybody here gone from 7000 to 7100 either from an upgrade or a fresh install? If so, is it worth it? It seems like there's more bugs with every build (Of course this is the bug forums) But are there any major changes? I know of the UI changes but in terms of performance how much faster is 7100 over 7000?

I've not installed it, but there are enough bug fixes and a few UI changes in previous builds that should make you install it.

[ToneKnee]

Guys tried to upgrade from 7106 to 7100 -no go- cannot upgrade to older version/7106 is the more recent version. Darn :o

If Microsoft could, they'd slap you, and any other person trying to upgrade from a beta/pre-rc to the current RC, that's why you can't upgrade (unless you trick the setup to think it can). Microsoft have stated that they want real testers to do upgrades from Vista to Windows 7 to give them a better bug reporting conditions rather than people upgrading from a bugged beta and messing something up, then crying to Microsoft about it.

By upgrading from one build to another, you hurt the development because you are effectively creating a new set of bugs which don't actually apply to what Microsoft is trying to achieve.

Also again, to clarify, 7106 is older, but the reason the setup won't allow the upgrade is because of the above reason, and that's what Microsoft have done themselves, and not a bug.

[Subject Delta]

here u go..

look at the media player buttons.. and the image viewer ones..

i remeber the media player had same style.. but they updated it in build 7022.. rite now im on 57 and the image viewer button still isnt fixed...

There is nothing wrong with the button. You don't need to have a play button in an image viewer.

And yes.. im the kinda guy who looked at the graphics of a game before gameplay :p

im the eyecandy lover...

i just want the UI to be perfect.. if it was easy to modify the theme i wouldve made the button myself and replaced :p

but its not possible

Your opinion of perfect doesn't necessarily tally with everyone elses. Microsoft are here to please the masses, not just 1 user but if the buttons bother you that much, just find what library or executable they are in, and reshack your own "perfect" ones in.

U are rite..

I am..

BTW I LOVE WINDOWS 7..

it flys on my stupid slow system..

Vista was death for my computer..

And If u are rite..

then im sorry but why do ppl say RC is like COMPLETE.. just some bugs there..

when there is a big flaw ..

BTW.. Isnt there anyone who has install it already??

The RC is feature complete, and UI complete, the only usual changes after RC stage are icon updates, and small tweaks. And for the record, a button that isn't to your taste is not a very big flaw, it is just a personal opinion coming from you, that you personally don't like it. Evidently not many other users can be making much of an issue out of it if it isn't being changed. And for the record, can you please post in english, reading pages full of abbreviations like u and r just gives me a headache.

1-copy the content of the 7 iso to usb stick .

2-change the boot order to boot from usb

3- done

4-profit!

that has worked for me before,

Doesn't always work, some bioses won't boot from USB if there isn't a boot sector on the device

Get an iMac then

Don't troll Windows threads with this rubbish. If you want to talk about how wonderful macs are, go post in a mac thread, or head off to somewhere like macrumours and join the rest of the Windows bashers.

So can WMP use third party codecs in 7100?

WMP has always been able to use third party codecs, Windows just prevents the replacement of in-house codecs.

[ObiWanToby]

I wish we could debunk Paul so he can get a real job and not spread false information. These mis informations pop up in casual conversation, it is truly annoying.

[Victor V.]

Yes it is, there is nothing more than having a sexy wallpaper and having some random text in the bottom right hand corner to ruin it. Microsoft could actually make it worse by making it change to random different colours. :p

Desktop customization is useless anyway. You are just wasting time if you are looking to your desktop. But then again, just use a light wallpaper.

[ToneKnee]

What I don't like about Paul and his site is that he goes on that he needs to go-ahead from Microsoft to post an extensive review, but he then goes on to say that if your a risk taker, you can download the builds from torrent sites. It's kind of a double standard. Microsoft don't want these builds being leaked, but it's okay for him to encourage people to get the torrents but it's not okay for him to post Microsoft secrets or wait for the go-ahead for him to post a review? Really, if he was any credibility, he wouldn't be saying anything, much less actually encouraging people to go and torrent the leak.

[Another Canuck]

There is nothing wrong with the button. You don't need to have a play button in an image viewer.

I believe he's talking about the style of the buttons, notice the lighter blue colour and slightly refined design.

Why would anyone suggest having a Play button in Photo Viewer?

WMP has always been able to use third party codecs, Windows just prevents the replacement of in-house codecs.

Wrong

[ToneKnee]

I believe he's talking about the style of the buttons, notice the lighter blue colour and slightly refined design.

Why would anyone suggest having a Play button in Photo Viewer?

Play a slideshow? haha! only jokin! ;)

[Mazda 3s]

I downloaded it and installed it (x64 version), but have just one problem -- Windows Update/Microsoft Update which is built-in to Windows 7 will NOT update Office 2007 for me. It shows that the only eligible Microsoft products to update is Windows.

I never had this problem before with the previous betas of Windows 7 x64. Now I can't even get any program/security updates for Office 2007 (genuine copy of the Home/Student version).

And this is a clean install.

[hdood]

Wrong

It's not about "Windows" not supporting it, it's about the list of transforms that WMP prefers being locked and inaccessible to third parties. These are not DirectShow filters and any DS filters for the same types will be ignored regardless of their configured merit. The Microsoft quote in your link even pretty much confirms it by saying that third party applications can use whatever they want. WMP is however not a third party application, it's a Windows component.

Presumably it's done so they can guarantee a level of functionality in WMP, not to be mean.

[atleeit]

I downloaded it and installed it (x64 version), but have just one problem -- Windows Update/Microsoft Update which is built-in to Windows 7 will NOT update Office 2007 for me. It shows that the only eligible Microsoft products to update is Windows.

I never had this problem before with the previous betas of Windows 7 x64. Now I can't even get any program/security updates for Office 2007 (genuine copy of the Home/Student version).

And this is a clean install.

Do i clean install, Office 2007 updates work.