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just on the lock down thing, arnt intel developing hardware rights management, could this be a coincedence? or are they doing it so that they can lock OSX to OSX intel chips?

I would love go get my hands on a leek of the OSX x86 OS, that would be mint!

PS. most pc users are "coming out" about there little fetish for OSX :devil:

just on the lock down thing, arnt intel developing hardware rights management, could this be a coincedence? or are they doing it so that they can lock OSX to OSX intel chips?

I would love go get my hands on a leek of the OSX x86 OS, that would be mint!

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yeaj...but the kicker is probabely that it will ONLY run on Intel-Apple hardware...I don't think it'll just run on any PC...Apple is not stupid...(although I thought they were 10 minutes ago and still feeling it)

I've been reading all the comments on certain mac sites from all the fanboys and they are extreme! talkin about trashing there iBooks and cursing Apple and Jobs LOL

I don't care want CPU is being used, I care about the user expereince that OS X gives me, i care about the look and feel of my iBook, that'll never change... except the price for my next iBook will come down (plus a 4+Ghz iBook in sounding sweet!).

man, i can't believe this. i feel like hell has frozen over. i never imagined a day with xboxes running IBM chips, and apple running Intels. ever since i've been into computers, this is all i have known, this was like my foundation. and now it's crumbling. i don't know what to think.

People, Apple sent me another PowerMac Transition Kit by mistake but its running the wrong OS, see pic below:

:(

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What to do???

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Open it up!!!!!

Need to know:

is it a 660 or 560j?

Full 64bit?

Who made the motherboard?

Other intel components? (NIC, Northbrigde)

MAC bios screen?

man, i can't believe this.  i feel like hell has frozen over.  i never imagined a day with xboxes running IBM chips, and apple running Intels.  ever since i've been into computers, this is all i have known, this was like my foundation.  and now it's crumbling.  i don't know what to think.

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hehe....I don't think any of us say this one coming...

Change is good...but this....this is....different...

yeaj...but the kicker is probabely that it will ONLY run on Intel-Apple hardware...I don't think it'll just run on any PC...Apple is not stupid...(although I thought they were 10 minutes ago and still feeling it)

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kyuubi, it might look a stupid move to you, me & a whole lot of others (because we know nothing even now) but the folks at Apple know more than us and it might make sense with that "additional information". Dont you think ?

I've been reading all the comments on certain mac sites  from all the fanboys and they are extreme! talkin about trashing there iBooks and cursing Apple and Jobs LOL

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lol @ the height of stupidity. Thats their own loss, better ship them to me and I'll personally "trash" them :p ;)

AHHH! Why does it matter what CPU your using?!!

I don't understand why this is a sad day for Apple.

It's not unless you truely believed the "megahertz myth" video from back when the G4

was announced or the cisc vs risc performance graph from pack when apple went to PPC back in the day.

It's sad because mac users are so tired of transitions. I'm tempted to draw a parallel

to the nomadic state of the Jews a few thousand years ago. I just want things to settle

down. I thought they had with OS X 10.4 and the G5, I was wrong.

Embrace the new technology, embrace PCIe, embrace Pentium M, embrace a Dual-Core Powermac Workstation.

Apple was shipping dual CPU systems to the masses before they were a glimmer in

Intel/AMDs eyes. Dual core/dual processor - that's just an implimentation detail. IBM

was producing those chips years ago too. PCIe could easily be dropped onto

U3L - there's nothing that said you have to use a Pentium for that.

The pentium M does have some nice perofmrance/watt specs though.

Moving to P4 hardware sort of puts a damper on the speculation of a 4 processor

(dual dual core) 970 MP based poewrmac though.

kyuubi, it might look a stupid move to you, me & a whole lot of others (because we know nothing even now) but the folks at Apple know more than us and it might make sense with that "additional information". Dont you think ?

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hehe...actually...if Apple do lock it...than it will be a VERY good move...at the moment, this is the only way I can see that will work with out Apple crashing and burning..

So will PowerMac be dual core Pentium 4?

will iMac be Pentium 4?

will eMacs & mini be celeron?

will iBook be centrino celeron?

and will pbook centrino?

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I doubt they'd use Celeron, too **** for Apple. If Jobs okays that he's a ****ing dick.

i think the only way ill buy it when it comes out is if the developer support is there for sweet apps (pref open source), it runs on of the shelf hardware and the gaming industry makes the move from dx X to a new and proper MINT ( :p , but no im not a chav) open GL x.x ICD and supports mac OS x86.

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