I've Switched to AMD.

By Steven
in Hardware Hangout

 Share

Recommended Posts

Veteran

Crimson Behelit

Posted
Posted
sick buy, i just upgraded to a dual 2.0 G5 and 17inch pb my self. Maybe ill look into a system similar to your, seems like a great price and bf2 does look tempting..

586239964[/snapback]

I think Steve means he switched,... he didn't switch :p

switch = switching from Intel to AMD

switch = switching from Win to Mac

Grand Master

stncttr908 Veteran

Posted
  • Veteran
Posted
Do those include a Fan? or does the thermalright require me to buy a fan with it?

586240151[/snapback]

The Thermalright requires a fan unless you get a bundle (which varies from site to site, but it'll say so). Personally I'd go with the Zalman. Just beware that it's a heavy, heavy heatsink. It's the best cooling capacity vs. decibel level out there if I'm not mistaken, aside from watercooling of coures.

You won't regret the move Mr. Staind. (Y) :cool:

Grand Master

Steven

Posted
  • Author
Posted
The Thermalright requires a fan unless you get a bundle (which varies from site to site, but it'll say so).? Personally I'd go with the Zalman.? Just beware that it's a heavy, heavy heatsink.? It's the best cooling capacity vs. decibel level out there if I'm not mistaken, aside from watercooling of coures.

You won't regret the move Mr. Staind. (:cool:ol:

586240218[/snapback]

MSI's website stinks (I <3 ASUS's).. I need help finding the CPU support page for this board...

I Picked the Zalman, Total is now @ $498.0:) :) Perfection!:D :D

:edit: http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mai...?UID=607&kind=1

found the CPu page.... thx google:D :D Damnit MSI Don't make me an unhappy customer already!:wacko:ko:

Grand Master

Martog

Posted
Posted

Just also a quick note on your confusion on the 754 and 939 3700+, aside from the higher HyperTransport, it also is more future proof (ie the dual cores) and also uses Dual Channel DDR (that's dependent on the processor, as the memory controller is on the proc itself). The only difference between 754 and 939 really is the number of RAM channels it supports. If you want Dual Channel DDR2, I think the socket has to be liked 1218 pins or so, that's the only downside for upgrading with the AMD's is if they jump to a different RAM standard, the pin count changes.

The Neo2 is the best choice for AGP based S939, great choice there, and I think you'll be pleased with the 3700+. Welcome to the good side of x86 computing. :)

Grand Master

Steven

Posted
  • Author
Posted

MSI Says I need a 3700+ E4 Version... is this hard to find? or is this the normal one I should expect...

http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mai...?UID=607&kind=1

Last thing I want is to buy all this stuff then find out I have the wrong version of the CPU! :crazy:

Grand Master

Cyrilix

Posted
Posted
MSI Says I need a 3700+ E4 Version... is this hard to find? or is this the normal one I should expect...

http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mai...?UID=607&kind=1

Last thing I want is to buy all this stuff then find out I have the wrong version of the CPU!  :crazy:

586240243[/snapback]

Just get a 3700+ San Diego, they're all E4.

Only the 3700+ Clawhammer is different -- and you can tell because it's still made using the 130nm process tech.

Grand Master

chconline Veteran

Posted
  • Veteran
Posted

The 939 will run much cooler than the 754... the 754 operates at 1.5v whereas the 939 operates at 135-140 V.

586239894[/snapback]

1.35/1.40 is different from 135/140. If I asked you to pay me $1.35, I would appreciate the $135 tho :whistle:

Grand Master

Steven

Posted
  • Author
Posted

One advantage of this is that the motherboard i'm going to buy will support all these fancy ass new AMD processors. If i was to stay with Intel I would have to go PCI-Express to get Dual Core. That is not an option.

AMD has left me open with a LARGE upgrade lifecycle.

I can keep using AGP and get Dual Core (eventually) and I don't have to buy DDR2 memory.

I suppose AMD will eventually discontinue 939 but that's not really important for me yet. They have given me the ability to easily upgrade to Dual Core without having to change my Video Card and RAM.

oh and thanks for that mention that the 3700+ are all the same "E4" that makes me feel better.

Grand Master

Cyrilix

Posted
Posted
One advantage of this is that the motherboard i'm going to buy will support all these fancy ass new AMD processors. If i was to stay with Intel I would have to go PCI-Express to get Dual Core. That is not an option.

AMD has left me open with a LARGE upgrade lifecycle.

I can keep using AGP and get Dual Core (eventually) and I don't have to buy DDR2 memory.

586240289[/snapback]

Yeah, but AGP may die soon so the gamer in you may not be pleased. :)

Grand Master

Steven

Posted
  • Author
Posted
Yeah, but AGP may die soon so the gamer in you may not be pleased. :)

586240298[/snapback]

My 6800GT IMO has a life to live. It's only been in my hands about 2 weeks. If nVidia wants to keep making AGP in the 7 Series then the more power to me and if they don't I will still have a motherboard that supports Dual Core anyway.

Grand Master

Martog

Posted
Posted
One advantage of this is that the motherboard i'm going to buy will support all these fancy ass new AMD processors. If i was to stay with Intel I would have to go PCI-Express to get Dual Core. That is not an option.

AMD has left me open with a LARGE upgrade lifecycle.

I can keep using AGP and get Dual Core (eventually) and I don't have to buy DDR2 memory.

586240289[/snapback]

That's what I liked about the Socket 939 platform and why I waited for the nForce 4 boards. I got to go PCIe and Athlon 64 from the get go (I wanted PCIe anyhow, I had a Radeon 9700 and wanted something better). As I stated earlier, when AMD goes to DDR2, it'll be a new socket. With the CPU's, I updated to the latest A8N SLI Deluxe Bios, powered off, pulled out my 3500+, popped in my 4400+ X2, BIOS saw it right away, both Windows XP 32bit and x64 saw the change in hardware, updated to ACPI Muliprocessor PC in the device manager, and both ARE using the dual core without a reinstall. I was encoding a video, and cpu usage total was about 90%, so it was using both cores.

Veteran

Crimson Behelit

Posted
Posted
so Will I miss HyperThreading? Will my PC be sorta slow when running multiple tasks?  :unsure:

586240324[/snapback]

There's a possibility that you will, though I can't personally comment on it because I've never been at the helm of a HT machine...

The new proc will be speedier than your old proc at stock speeds... and don't forget you have a large overclocking window open in front of you :yes:

Grand Master

Steven

Posted
  • Author
Posted
I'll be honest here, you know I had a hyperthreading processor, namely one of the first to get a 3.0GHz "c" Northwood that had it on it. When I went to the 3500+, I did notice somethings were not as smooth as they were on the P4 because of the hyperthreading.? Could have just been my imagination though.? Now that's all a thing of the past, X2:):)

586240347[/snapback]

You're enticing me to save up and deal with a dead PC for a few extra weeks and get an X2...:unsure:e:

I really do a lot of things at once. I always have my music on whenever i'm doing something and I know HT makes that nicer.

To be honest I'm not without a computer at home so my situation isn't as bad as it might seem. I still have my Laptop but it's no America's Army capable. I can play C&C Generals on it:):) AA is my baby though.:cry:y:

Grand Master

Martog

Posted
Posted
so Will I miss HyperThreading? Will my PC be sorta slow when running multiple tasks?  :unsure:

I like to listen to Music with iTunes while I play my Games. with this be a problem with the Athlon?

586240324[/snapback]

I'll be honest here, you know I had a hyperthreading processor, namely one of the first to get a 3.0GHz "c" Northwood that had it on it. When I went to the 3500+, I did notice somethings were not as smooth as they were on the P4 because of the hyperthreading. Could have just been my imagination though. Now that's all a thing of the past, X2. :)

Grand Master

Cyrilix

Posted
Posted
You're enticing me to save up and deal with a dead PC for a few extra weeks and get an X2.... :unsure:

Honest I'm not without a computer at home. I still have my Laptop but it's no gaming machine...

586240351[/snapback]

I would save up for an X2 or take a $250 hit on your credit card (just make sure you can pay it in time).

Grand Master

Martog

Posted
Posted (edited)
You're enticing me to save up and deal with a dead PC for a few extra weeks and get an X2.... :unsure:

Honest I'm not without a computer at home. I still have my Laptop but it's no gaming machine...

586240351[/snapback]

To be honest, the reason why I jumped on the X2 only 6months after getting my 3500+ is because I own a Media Center computer, I want to archive what I record into smaller format, plus I own a Dell Axim x50v, I want to encode videos as well. This processor allows me to do this all much faster than a single core. I've gotten used to how apps behave on a single core without a logical one, but now I'll be spoiled again. I don't suggest you buy an X2 just to get a better feel from the system when doing more tasks. You should get it if you are going to use the power of the X2, like I am. It makes a great gaming proc in addition to being on par with P4's with hypthreading or dual core in the arena of encoding now.

EDIT: This is just one of the reasons I like X2's..

3500+ video encoding:Job finished. Total time: 2 hours 11 minutes 49 seconds

4400+ same video, settings: Job finished. Total time: 1 hour, 18 minutes 38 seconds

Edited by Martog
Grand Master

Steven

Posted
  • Author
Posted
I would save up for an X2 or take a $250 hit on your credit card (just make sure you can pay it in time).

586240358[/snapback]

The 4400 X2 is like $700.00. I think thats way too much. The 4200 X2(Manchester) is 545... I think I'll pass for now.

I'll miss HT but I'm not going to make a stink about it.

This topic is now closed to further replies.
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Posts

    • AI is indeed eliminating jobs, and Oracle just proved it

      By WaltC · Posted

      AI will never be the jobs panacea some companies fantasize about today. Oracle is likely using it as an excuse, which we will see a lot of companies doing, I'm certain. They love their "plausible" excuses for their downturns. A couple of weeks ago my wife asked me to call Krogers about some discrepancy in a online grocery order, and it will be the last time either of us does that. I'll just do emails with humans from now on... The AI experience was horrible--the obviously recorded voice started asking a bunch of questions about our orders six months prior(!) and saying, "Is this in reference to your order on January 6, for $****?" You say "No!" and immediately the next question is "Is this in reference to your order on January 29th, for $****?" again, I answered "No!"--and it was incredible--on and on it went like that for fully 20 minutes until we finally got to the present, and only then was I put through to a human with authentic intelligence... I wondered why on Earth the idiot AI didn't start with the most recent orders and work back from there, as it was something anyone with a functioning brain would have done. And why didn't the AI have enough sense to ask me what the problem was in the first place? It didn't take too much deduction to understand that the goal of this "AI" was to cause the person on the phone to hang up in disgust, with no resolution of the problem. That begs another question: why pay for a tool-free problem line if the goal is to avoid solving your customer's problems?... Fortunately, Krogers does have real humans capable of reading an email and understanding it, and if she sees another situation in the future that's route she or I will take. The online grocery delivery service from Krogers has been great, over all, but their AI truly sucks.
    • AI is indeed eliminating jobs, and Oracle just proved it

      By +DDG3595 · Posted

      AI is the justification that company administrators use to lay people off; it is not the end all, be all touted in the media (many of whom can't tell a microchip from a potato chip). Greed is main driving factor behind its adoption; the other is remaining relevant in the face of competition from other entities.
    • The official Funny Pictures thread

      By PsYcHoKiLLa · Posted

    • Firefox 152.0.2 is out with fixes for performance, translation, and cloud storage services

      By TarasBuria · Posted

      Firefox 152.0.2 is out with fixes for performance, translation, and cloud storage services by Taras Buria A new bug-fixing update is now rolling out to Firefox users in the Release Channel. Less than a week ago, Mozilla fixed crashes on Intel Raptor Lake processors with version 152.0.1. Now, Mozilla has prepared yet another set of fixes that address problems with localization, playback issues of certain MP4 files, and performance issues on website that perform various encryption operations at once. Here is the full changelog: Firefox 152.0.2 is now available for download from Mozilla's FTP. Existing installations will get the update over the next several hours. The latest version will also be available soon on the official website, the Microsoft Store, and Neowin's Software page. You can find Firefox 152.0.2 release notes in the official documentation. In case you missed it, Mozilla released Firefox 152 earlier this month. The latest feature update brought reworked settings with a more streamlined user interface, JPEG XL support, new features for Private mode, a new way to mute a tab (just type "mute" in the address bar), and many more. You can find the complete changelog here. In other Firefox news, Mozilla recently published its roadmap, where the company detailed the upcoming Nova redesign and other features it plans to implement. Mozilla wants to make the new user interface easier to navigate and more modern, with a heavy focus on its privacy tools, such as its built-in VPN. If you are curious, you can already enable the new UI as described here.
    • Liene PixCut S1 Starter Kit gets a whopping 31% discount on Prime Day

      By Steven P. · Posted

      Liene PixCut S1 Starter Kit gets a whopping 31% discount on Prime Day by Steven Parker Liene reached out to us to share another Prime Day exclusive deal that starts today on Amazon. It gives buyers a massive 31% off on the cost of this color sticker printer and cutting machine. It's basically an all-in-one sticker maker for DIY crafts, custom labels and gifts. It utilizes thermal dye-sublimation at 300 dpi, and offers precise "AI" auto-cutting. Here are some more of its highlights: All-in-One Convenience - Print and Cut in One Step. Say goodbye to the hassle of using separate machines. The PixCut S1 seamlessly integrates high-resolution photo printing and precise die cutting into one streamlined device. With just a few clicks on the user-friendly app, you can edit, print, and cut directly from your smartphone via Bluetooth. Create stickers in just 2 minutes! This all-in-one solution saves you time and effort, making your creative projects more enjoyable and efficient. AI Image Extraction & Precision Cutting - Unleash your creativity with the AI image extraction feature that automatically recognizes and extracts subjects from your photos. Then watch as the high-precision cutting system, guided by the same AI technology, perfectly follows every edge with pinpoint accuracy. This seamless AI-to-cut workflow ensures flawless results every time. Turn any moment into custom stickers with professional edges in minutes - just masterpieces made simple. High-Resolution Prints - Vivid and True-to-Life Colors. Utilizing thermal dye-sublimation technology, the PixCut S1 delivers stunning 300 dpi high-resolution prints with 16.7 million colors. Whether you're printing photos, stickers, or labels, you can expect vibrant, true-to-life color effects that make your creations stand out. Every detail is captured with precision, providing professional-quality results every time. AI Lab - Bring Your Imagination to Life. Upload a photo, pick a style from the Liene Photo App, and watch AI bring your vision to life instantly. Turn selfies into an anime character, a fantasy hero, or a festive holiday illustration — all with stunning realism. One style, endless versions of you. Print your AI art as custom stickers, unique gifts, or social media posts — perfect for avatars and DIY projects. No design experience required. Your creativity is just one click away from magic. Durable Stickers - Create Long-Lasting Creations .Thanks to the four-layer thermal dye-sublimation technology, the photopaper is automatically laminated during printing. Stickers produced by PixCut S1 are durable, waterproof and scratch-resistant, ensuring they remain vibrant and intactover time. Perfect for creating custom stickers, labels, and more that last. No Subscription. Just Pure Creativity. With the Liene app, available on mobile, tablet, and desktop. Unlock 40,000+ free images, fonts & elements (and growing), plus 2000+ ready-to-use templates for phone skins, lens stickers, ID cards, labels, name tags, journaling, and more. No paywalls, no hidden fees, just pure creativity. Turn any idea into a custom creation in minutes. Your imagination has no limits, neither should your software. This deal is for the Starter Kit, so what do you get? What's in the box PixCut S1 Photo Sticker Printer and Cutter x 1 Photo Sticker Cutter Ink Cartridge x 1 (36 sheets) Photo Paper 4"x6" (18 sheets) Sticker Paper 4"x7" (White) x 18 sheets Blade x 1 (Pre-installed) So in short everything you need to get printing and cutting. The Liene PixCut S1 has a 4.3 star rating after more than 1,000 reviews from customers, but we can't promise the landing page always sold this particular model, so do check out the reviews before purchasing. In any case Prime members are covered with a 30 day return or replacement should things not work out so great. Liene Pixcut S1 for $205.99 (was $299.99) 31% off Use code 15PIXCUT6 during checkout Although this is a Prime Day discount, the above code will stay live until June 30. Good to know This Amazon deal is U.S. specific, and not available in other regions unless specified. We only use first-party seller links (at the time of article publishing); ensure that you purchase from a first-party seller link only. Check out Today's Deals on Amazon | or our recent tech deals. Become a Prime member (for Students or SNAP) via Neowin Get Prime Access - Prime for half price (for qualifying Medicaid, EBT, SNAP) Subscribe to Prime Video, Audible Plus, Music Unlimited or Kindle Unlimited via Neowin As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

  • Recent Achievements

    • One Month Later
      timbobit earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • One Month Later
      nates earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • Week One Done
      Almohandis earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Rookie
      dorf went up a rank
      Rookie
    • First Post
      mike_rumble earned a badge
      First Post

  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      481
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      174
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      103
    4. 4
      Michael Scrip
      88
    5. 5
      neufuse
      70
    Show More

  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!