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Bearzilla

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You've apparently never seen this...

yup...apparently europe is clueless just how popular SUV's and Pickups can be. Dodge Rams come now with 345HP Hemi engines with 500HP V10's as options on the R/T's. Makes the tiny Civics and Beemers look sad and slow.

Bite down on that Honda fanboys!

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Impulfusion

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You've apparently never seen this...

yup...apparently europe is clueless just how popular SUV's and Pickups can be. Dodge Rams come now with 345HP Hemi engines with 500HP V10's as options on the R/T's. Makes the tiny Civics and Beemers look sad and slow.

Bite down on that Honda fanboys!

BTW, A BMW can beat up at speed a Pick-Up very easy and a BMW is not used for the same things as a Pick-Up so you cant match those..

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Bearzilla

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You've apparently never seen this...

yup...apparently europe is clueless just how popular SUV's and Pickups can be. Dodge Rams come now with 345HP Hemi engines with 500HP V10's as options on the R/T's. Makes the tiny Civics and Beemers look sad and slow.

Bite down on that Honda fanboys!

BTW, A BMW can beat up at speed a Pick-Up very easy and a BMW is not used for the same things as a Pick-Up so you cant match those..

You're right...BMW's and RAM's are very different...RAM's are just allaround better vehicles.!

:D

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Chicane-UK Veteran

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Each to their own dude.. a few points you should note about European taste in cars, and reasons for it :

* Some people (myself included) think that those SUV's and pickups look as ugly as sin.. sorry, but its true. I would rather drive pretty much any Honda, BMW or VW than one of those things. Big really isn't always better.

* You guys get fuel, cheap as water over there.. yea, I know you guys complain about cost of fuel in the USA but believe me, it costs you nothing compared to what it costs Europe. So for most of us, running a 370BHP+ motor is basically impossible because of the terrible fuel consumption that those big V8's and the like offer.

* And as unlikely as it sounds, a lot of people are concerned about the environment - as I said, economy & SUV are two words that do not go hand in hand. My VW Corrado is the 2 litre/16v model - amusingly enough most people I talk to here in the UK consider that to be 'excessive' and 'powerful' - compared to the V8's in those trucks, it looks like a lawnmower.

So before you give us "Bite down on that Honda fanboys!" you need to really look into the reasons behind why they aren't so popular here.

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Mando

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hi heres my summer play car you all will think its a girlie motor but hey hehehe try it with the Rover V8 3.5 carb model outta an old rover Vittesse shoehorned into it then call it girlie.

Nice seeing all the car "######" larf at lights because it has twin rear pipes they all think its fake until i press the right pedal.

Id think their smiles are wiped off their faces but i wouldnt know because im a qtr mile down the road by time they get into second gear :p

Suspension and brakes and alloys have been replaced since but its currently being remodded with a new nose and a new bodykit.

After all its winter up here and its a jappy import.

Having to make do with my 91 Toyota Corolla gti-16 for now roll on easter :D

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....with the Rover V8 3.5 carb model outta an old rover Vittesse shoehorned into it....

Heh.. what better way to make the Nova boys look like complete and utter morons, than when you hammer off the lights in that craftly little sleeper :)

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Mando

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yaaaay found it ere it is

the mods on this are

45mm lowered and uprated shocks

cross drilled and vented discs all round

induction kit, powerboost valve and full scorpion s/steel exhaust system inc manifold

alloys etc also as u can see

pushes out 159BHP now not bad for a wee 1600cc mp i no?

i plan to get a 2ltr Celica engine as it fits straight in with slight mods and if you leave the 1600 gearbox u basically have the 90s spec toyota rally car :D

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Impulfusion

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You've apparently never seen this...

yup...apparently europe is clueless just how popular SUV's and Pickups can be. Dodge Rams come now with 345HP Hemi engines with 500HP V10's as options on the R/T's. Makes the tiny Civics and Beemers look sad and slow.

Bite down on that Honda fanboys!

BTW, A BMW can beat up at speed a Pick-Up very easy and a BMW is not used for the same things as a Pick-Up so you cant match those..

You're right...BMW's and RAM's are very different...RAM's are just allaround better vehicles.!

:D

Yeah, sure that why a RAM eats alot more gas than a BMW: It's american and americans are EVIL! Everything they make is for high usage of gas and thats why Everyone has RAM's and not BMW's. The price is mostly the same... BMW 150 000$ RAM 50 000$ Guess why? :p

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beondhlp

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You've apparently never seen this...

yup...apparently europe is clueless just how popular SUV's and Pickups can be. Dodge Rams come now with 345HP Hemi engines with 500HP V10's as options on the R/T's. Makes the tiny Civics and Beemers look sad and slow.

Bite down on that Honda fanboys!

BTW, A BMW can beat up at speed a Pick-Up very easy and a BMW is not used for the same things as a Pick-Up so you cant match those..

The BMW will beat the Ram assuming the road you are on only calls for four inches of ground clearance.

Those who fail to see the appeal of the pickup or SUV have never towed a boat through the woods to their favorite fishing hole, or driven miles down the beach in search of the ultimate bonfire, etc.

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scrAp

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everyone has their own preference...but once you pass 21 you won't care about niggin' yer hondas/ etc...up....

guarantee you if you pull up into the same place as me...gas station, grocery store, club....wherever...my car gets the attention ;) so what if you can outrun me :p mine is sexy and so is...well poop....can't see now...dude recently posted a nice new ride

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bayrider

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You've apparently never seen this...

yup...apparently europe is clueless just how popular SUV's and Pickups can be. Dodge Rams come now with 345HP Hemi engines with 500HP V10's as options on the R/T's. Makes the tiny Civics and Beemers look sad and slow.

Bite down on that Honda fanboys!

BTW, A BMW can beat up at speed a Pick-Up very easy and a BMW is not used for the same things as a Pick-Up so you cant match those..

You're right...BMW's and RAM's are very different...RAM's are just allaround better vehicles.!

:D

Yeah, sure that why a RAM eats alot more gas than a BMW: It's american and americans are EVIL! Everything they make is for high usage of gas and thats why Everyone has RAM's and not BMW's. The price is mostly the same... BMW 150 000$ RAM 50 000$ Guess why? :p

actually go and do your research before u compare everything to a super small VW deisel engine or a Honda/Toyota hybrid car and compare it to anything anyone has every built, if u want to compare two similiar cars, go check the nissan altima and the chevy malibu, both are cars in the exact same class targeted to the exact same people and share similiar drivetrains and body size and engine... and you will see that an american V6 produces better gas mileage (3 miles better) than most european and japanese V6 engines... youre comparing that dodge ram SRT-10 with an 8.3L Dodge Viper engine to a 3.3L BMW M3 or maybe an M5 engine which are upto less than half the size of the 8.3? of curse the bmw will get better mileage u dumbass... and if u want to talk about mileage and nothing else, go see the corvettes 5.7L engine which no other car company in the world can match the mileage of aroun 29 MILES A GALLON, most 4cylinder engines barely do that(altima 4cyl 2.5L does 1 more mile a gallon than the more than twice as big corvette motor), MOST V6's (max 4L) CANT do 28miles a gallon!!!! go check for yourself http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/library/...ndex_fuel.htm... now youre telling me americans are evil gas sucking people? go tell BMW or Mercedes to make me a 5.7L engine that can produce 28Miles a gallon and pump 400horsepower for less than $45,000 and come back and tell me who is sucking all that gas...

and the reasons why american cars have big engines is because here, people can drive cars and trucks almost anywhere they want, from the feild to the city, and these trucks demand big towing power, can a 4cylinder turbo deisel with no toruque pull anything more than the tires the car rides on???... now tell me do u even know what a Hemi engine is? probably the most powerful engine per litre or "cc"... infact the old 69 hemi engines can sell for more than most BMW's or mercedes cars

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bayrider

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You've apparently never seen this...

that ram srt-10 is sweet as hell, supposed to run 0-60 in 5secs and beat the lightning in the quarter mile!

and btw, impullfusion, that Ram SRT-10 is probably faster than ALL bmw's except for the M3 and is probably as fast as an M5... im not saying it will beat it on a racetrack with tight turns and whatnot, but the RAM SRT-10 is faster

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Chicane-UK Veteran

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Chicane-uk if you ever wanna sell your corry gimme a shout dood ;) they are by far the classiest VW since da BUG (i have one of those too BTW) 1302S but slowly rotting away in my drive :( my first car! :yes:

Hehe.. sure thing :)

They are great cars.. expensive to keep on the road (mine has had its fair share of bills, believe me) but worth it when you take it out for a spin. *Still* gets peoples attention despite the design being 14 years old. And still goes pretty well :)

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Fusion

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mxp - why in the world would you buy a civic and a integra.

i agree taht japanese cars are cool, but not that cool.

civics and integras just arent fast. period. thats all there is to it. yes, you can make them fast, but buy the time you spend that much money, not to mention on every single part of the car just to handle the power, and make it not just cheap rice, but a real car, you could have afforded a real car..

I was big in the street racing scene when i was in high school, and i swear, i have never seen a civic or integra beat anything but trash.

i drove a mitsubishi eclipse gsx, AWD pushing about 20 lbs of boost, and although i had done alot to my car, made it fast, and wasted alot of money... it stillllll was not thaaaaat fast.

i mean, any bmw m series or porche, or even something cheaper would have beaten it.

i thought it was cool then, but now i just dont understand it. It just seems like a waste.

if you want to have something fast that you could have afforded, move to like a supra, or IMO a Mits 3000 gt vr4 would be the best,

you are looking at a v6, with twin turbos, in a AWD chasis... no integra can beet that... and you can still mod that for cheap..

i dunno, i guess there cool if you want teen agers to look at you and gawk just because there is some stupid letter on it, or maybe i am just ignorant, but to me, what a waste of cash.

and far as selling it to pay for school, good choice. I had to get rid of my baby and get something cheaper and more sensible for university also, and i have never regretted it. The education I am recieving is waaay more valuable...

peace guys.

Grand Master

Zip

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You've apparently never seen this...

yup...apparently europe is clueless just how popular SUV's and Pickups can be. Dodge Rams come now with 345HP Hemi engines with 500HP V10's as options on the R/T's. Makes the tiny Civics and Beemers look sad and slow.

Bite down on that Honda fanboys!

BTW, A BMW can beat up at speed a Pick-Up very easy and a BMW is not used for the same things as a Pick-Up so you cant match those..

You're right...BMW's and RAM's are very different...RAM's are just allaround better vehicles.!

:D

Yeah, sure that why a RAM eats alot more gas than a BMW: It's american and americans are EVIL! Everything they make is for high usage of gas and thats why Everyone has RAM's and not BMW's. The price is mostly the same... BMW 150 000$ RAM 50 000$ Guess why? :p

actually go and do your research before u compare everything to a super small VW deisel engine or a Honda/Toyota hybrid car and compare it to anything anyone has every built, if u want to compare two similiar cars, go check the nissan altima and the chevy malibu, both are cars in the exact same class targeted to the exact same people and share similiar drivetrains and body size and engine... and you will see that an american V6 produces better gas mileage (3 miles better) than most european and japanese V6 engines... youre comparing that dodge ram SRT-10 with an 8.3L Dodge Viper engine to a 3.3L BMW M3 or maybe an M5 engine which are upto less than half the size of the 8.3? of curse the bmw will get better mileage u dumbass... and if u want to talk about mileage and nothing else, go see the corvettes 5.7L engine which no other car company in the world can match the mileage of aroun 29 MILES A GALLON, most 4cylinder engines barely do that(altima 4cyl 2.5L does 1 more mile a gallon than the more than twice as big corvette motor), MOST V6's (max 4L) CANT do 28miles a gallon!!!! go check for yourself http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/library/....ndex_fuel.htm... now youre telling me americans are evil gas sucking people? go tell BMW or Mercedes to make me a 5.7L engine that can produce 28Miles a gallon and pump 400horsepower for less than $45,000 and come back and tell me who is sucking all that gas...

and the reasons why american cars have big engines is because here, people can drive cars and trucks almost anywhere they want, from the feild to the city, and these trucks demand big towing power, can a 4cylinder turbo deisel with no toruque pull anything more than the tires the car rides on???... now tell me do u even know what a Hemi engine is? probably the most powerful engine per litre or "cc"... infact the old 69 hemi engines can sell for more than most BMW's or mercedes cars

a 4 cylinder turdo diesel has around the same torque as a 6 cylinder......my dad's chyrsler voyager (2tonne) can easily pull a 2 tonne caravan and it only a 2.5 tubo diesel.

this isnt a war btw ppl....the europeans just dont understand why you need a truck as a car? do u really go off road that often?

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mxp

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mxp - why in the world would you buy a civic and a integra.

i agree taht japanese cars are cool, but not that cool.

civics and integras just arent fast. period. thats all there is to it. yes, you can make them fast, but buy the time you spend that much money, not to mention on every single part of the car just to handle the power, and make it not just cheap rice, but a real car, you could have afforded a real car..

I was big in the street racing scene when i was in high school, and i swear, i have never seen a civic or integra beat anything but trash.

i drove a mitsubishi eclipse gsx, AWD pushing about 20 lbs of boost, and although i had done alot to my car, made it fast, and wasted alot of money... it stillllll was not thaaaaat fast.

i mean, any bmw m series or porche, or even something cheaper would have beaten it.

i thought it was cool then, but now i just dont understand it. It just seems like a waste.

if you want to have something fast that you could have afforded, move to like a supra, or IMO a Mits 3000 gt vr4 would be the best,

you are looking at a v6, with twin turbos, in a AWD chasis... no integra can beet that... and you can still mod that for cheap..

i dunno, i guess there cool if you want teen agers to look at you and gawk just because there is some stupid letter on it, or maybe i am just ignorant, but to me, what a waste of cash.

and far as selling it to pay for school, good choice. I had to get rid of my baby and get something cheaper and more sensible for university also, and i have never regretted it. The education I am recieving is waaay more valuable...

peace guys.

y u ask

b.c they are cheap to maintain and THEY ARE fast

with my type r i have beaten many cars

you say that a BMW or a Porsche would beat them well good observation there

btw have u taken a look at the price gap between my ITR and BMW ????

enough said

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