Acid 3 - The Web Browsers Test

[Rappy Veteran]

So Webkit and Opera don't truly pass it yet?

Well one build of Opera does well an internal build does.

[megamanXplosion]

None have passed yet. Browsers must:

(1) pass all 100 tests

(2) pass those tests smoothly at 30fps or higher on each test

(3) present pixel-perfect rendering.

Safari and Opera WinGogi have met criteria (1) and (3). They both fail to meet criteria (2). Safari has performance problems with 2 or 3 of the tests while Opera WinGogi has problems with the same tests but also a few others. Right now, Safari is in the lead.

[ThehAWKs]

I'm getting a 100%

[megamanXplosion]

Click the "A" in "Acid3" and find the performance results to see if it has met the "animation has to be smooth" criteria.

[ThehAWKs]

here it is

[Crazysah]

Yeah you are right!

BTW - IE8 fails 90 tests!

[Rappy Veteran]

Yeah you are right!

BTW - IE8 fails 90 tests!

IE8 will fail because its still a beta.

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

IE8 will fail because it doesn't implement what Acid3 is testing.

[torrentthief]

someone go test firefox 3.0 beta 5 with acid test 3 and give us your score: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0b5/releasenotes/

test this too please: Opera 9.27 Build 8841 Final - http://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/win/927/en/...7_Eng_Setup.exe

[SilverL]

These are what i got from those two builds

opera 46/100:

FF3b5 71/100:

[Marcel T]

If you're looking for random Acid3 screenshots

http://browsershots.org/http://acid3.acidtests.org/

It seems to be submitted there tons per day so this page has heaps of screenshots for those interested.

[torrentthief]

interesting, FF 3.0 beta5 gives a decent score. Bad score for opera though was expecting much more.

thanks.

[Elliott]

Most people are very interested in browser compatibility with standards these days, really strange!. I think is just another excuse to support the browser of their preference, more than the fact of the the advantages that brings the support or not support these standards :hmmm:

Standards are important. They make the job of a web developer infinitely easier. When a web developer has to hack around the inability of other rendering engines to do things properly, it creates messy code, extra work, and confusion.

[Azmodan]

IE8 will fail because its still a beta.

Do you mean it will pass when it gets out of beta? Or IE's been a beta all this time? :blink: Or the test is a beta, and doesn't uses the proper CSS hacks? :p

[loligoth]

interesting, FF 3.0 beta5 gives a decent score. Bad score for opera though was expecting much more.

thanks.

Opera 9.27 is pre-Krestrel, WinGogi is post-Kestrel. I doubt Opera will be adding any more Acid3 fix to their pre-Kestrel stable builds since it should be more about usability than passing a fancy artificial test. I'd like to see them fixing their 9.2x compatibility issues with the latest Flash instead of trying to merge stuffs from their highly unstable WinGogi experimental builds into their current stable builds to get a few more scores in Acid3.

[boobless]

interesting, FF 3.0 beta5 gives a decent score. Bad score for opera though was expecting much more.

thanks.

Opera 9.5 beta gives better result than FF 3 beta 5. "Failed 22 tests" for Opera 9.5 build 9864.

[loligoth]

Opera 9.5 beta gives better result than FF 3 beta 5. "Failed 22 tests" for Opera 9.5 build 9864.

I think the last Kestrel weekly scores 79/100.

Standards are important. They make the job of a web developer infinitely easier. When a web developer has to hack around the inability of other rendering engines to do things properly, it creates messy code, extra work, and confusion.

However, the Acid3 mainly doesn't test the browser to make sure it can support what features the standards include, but rather to make sure it does NOT support what features the standards exclude...

[Crazysah]

This beta runs much better than beta 4.

[loligoth]

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Safari has performance problems with 2 or 3 of the tests while Opera WinGogi has problems with the same tests but also a few others. Right now, Safari is in the lead.

I don't think so. I think the current WebKit nightly and the Opera WinGogi both have two problems in Acid3, but one of them differs.

WebKit:

WinGogi:

The difference is that WinGogi has a less than perfect pass of test 69 for taking more than one attempts at it, while WebKit takes more than 0.5s in test 65.

Also somehow WinGogi can consistently achieve a total time of around 1s, less than WebKit's total time of around 3s, when both are loading from cache.

[torrentthief]

Opera 9.52 Scores 83, just tested.

Firefox 2.01 Scores 71, just tested.

[torrentthief]

IE8 Beta 2 Scores 21 for me. How crap is that!!!

[stevember]

Serious?

Acid3 don't mean anythng in real world at present and near future, innovation, security, performance to name just 3 things are far more important.

These test should be for developers only, as at present its mis-guiding the ignorrent to how good browser is.

[ThisSiteHasLostItsCharm]

ff 3.0.1 got 71/100.

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

Acid3 tests a lot of DOM stuff and support for a few standards (including CSS features)

Since IE doesn't have good support for those things, it gets a very low score (Yes, including IE8 B2)

[mad_onion]

yeah doesn't acid 3 check for things that are really new and as such are implemented in very few sites.

i would expect much better support in 9. however far away that is.....