Malaysia Airlines 'loses contact with plane' (and search effort updates)

[Mugwump00]

A transponder requires an aerial, I presume - part of the external fabric of the aircraft?  A weak point that might be vulnerable to an explosion?  The FAA were concerned enough about another model of B777 order an inspection of antenna mounts.

[Mugwump00]

That aircraft is currently parked on some island.

 

Relatives have said the cell-phones are ringing.

 

One of those invisible-from-space islands with a 3k runway and good mobile coverage.  But no public.

[jerzdawg]

That aircraft is currently parked on some island.

 

Relatives have said the cell-phones are ringing.

That theory has already been disproved.

[DocM]

http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=22894802&sid=76&ts=true

U.S. officials have an "indication" the missing Malaysia Airlines jetliner may have crashed in the Indian Ocean and is moving the USS Kidd to the area to begin searching.

It will take another 24 hours to move the ship into position, a senior Pentagon official told ABC News.

"We have an indication the plane went down in the Indian Ocean," the senior official said.

The official said there were indications that the plane flew four or five hours after disappearing from radar and that they believe it went into the water.

Pentagon officials said that the USS Kidd was being moved at the request of Malaysia and is heading towards an area where the Indian Ocean and the Andaman Sea meet. It has helicopters aboard that can scour the area.

The U.S. action came hours after Malaysian officials said they had extended their search into the Andaman Sea and had requested help from India in the search for the missing plane and its 239 passengers.

Investigators also said today that U.S. officials gave them reasons to keep searching the waters west of Malaysia, far from the flight path of the Malaysia Airlines plane.

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[Mugwump00]

Hmmm, whatever did happen to passenger "Mario Balotelli"?

[Hum]

U.S. officials have an "indication" the missing Malaysia Airlines jetliner may have crashed in the Indian Ocean and is moving the USS Kidd to the area to begin searching.

It will take another 24 hours to move the ship into position, a senior Pentagon official told ABC News.

"We have an indication the plane went down in the Indian Ocean," the senior official said.

 

^ Interesting ....

 

I wonder how much total fuel is being spent to find Flight 370.

[Mugwump00]

^ Interesting ....

 

I wonder how much total fuel is being spent to find Flight 370.

 

If they've got some squeezey sponges or Bounty, at least the finder might be able to recoup their loses.

[adrynalyne]

That aircraft is currently parked on some island.

 

Relatives have said the cell-phones are ringing.

They must have some massive batteries.  Or maybe they brought their chargers with them and are charging them while being detained?

 

 

:huh:

[neufuse Veteran]

what are the chances that the pilots "hijacked" the plane? they could do it with virtually no one noticing, disable all the known systems that talk back, etc and still go somewhere and land?

[Louisifer]

That aircraft is currently parked on some island.

 

Relatives have said the cell-phones are ringing.

 

So the plane went missing last Friday at 18:40 GMT that's almost a week.

 

Smart phones have poor battery life that could be anywhere from 12-48 hours and dumb phones can be upto a week if not used at all.

 

Minus many hours of battery life waiting in an airport potentially using wifi or calling people.

Factor in that if all these phones were still turned on during flight the battery would have drained quicker as it tries to establish connections with nearest towers.

 

Your only hope of connecting a call at this point is with a dumb phone and even that's a stretch.

 

What if they are being held by terrorists? It's highly unlikely that someone who's gone through the trouble of stealing a plane and hiding it by turning of all locators and flying under radar would leave on a bunch of devices that can easily be triangulated if its within range of towers!

 

Even being in range of a single tower would narrow the search area immensely :|

[neufuse Veteran]

So the plane went missing last Friday at 18:40 GMT that's almost a week.

 

Smart phones have poor battery life that could be anywhere from 12-48 hours and dumb phones can be upto a week if not used at all.

 

 

My Samsung flip phone can last over a month on when not in use... I literally charge it once a month! it's a backup emergency phone

[DocM]

My LG OGP has a 3140 mAh battery, and I travel with 3 spares that take <1 min to swap & fit in my diabetes kit case. Well over 2 weeks on standby each, not that it gets to rest that long.

[Louisifer]

Not so easy to swap out when your dead at the bottom of the ocean or scattered over a mountainside.

Sorry if that's blunt but it's only a matter of time before the wreckage is found.

[DocM]

I agree, but not everyone travels with just the battery in their phone so it had to be said.

[Hum]

Bloomberg: "With no evidence of a mechanical failure or pilot error, U.S. investigators are treating the disappearance as a case of air piracy, though it remains unclear by whom, one person said. The investigation still hasn't located where the plane may be, the person said. "

[Mugwump00]

Bloomberg: "With no evidence of a mechanical failure or pilot error, U.S. investigators are treating the disappearance as a case of air piracy, though it remains unclear by whom, one person said. The investigation still hasn't located where the plane may be, the person said. "

 

'Fact, wild speculation. Fact' = Baloney sandwich anyone?

[Hum]

U.S. officials have an "indication" the missing Malaysia Airlines jetliner may have crashed in the Indian Ocean and is moving the USS Kidd to the area to begin searching.

 

Translation = the USA is following information provide by Remote Viewers. :shifty:

[The Rev]

'Fact, wild speculation. Fact' = Baloney sandwich anyone?

 

ROFL

[Louisifer]

'Fact, wild speculation. Fact' = Baloney sandwich anyone?

Don't forget the side order of conspiracy :P

[Mugwump00]

Don't forget the side order of conspiracy :p

 

Ok then, my lunch money's on this - The "Mario Balotelli"s took over the plane with some sort of 'device' threat.  Head off to Somalia.  Chinese passengers = huge Yauns.   Things get out of hand (i.e. Jet Li's double brings it on, panic!!), device gets used.  Orrr, somewhere over Diego Garcia, Goose & Maverick apply some good 'ole USN asian-diplomacy - situation FUBAR!!!   Those who know will never ever $ay...

 

Twaddle, all of it, of course.  But all rights reserved Mugwump, okay?!!!

 

[JJ_]

I really feel for the families of those missing. It's quite clear the Malaysian authorities are a bunch of incompetent fools!!

[kaffra]

I really feel for the families of those missing. It's quite clear the Malaysian authorities are a bunch of incompetent fools!!

 

like how china provided  satelite images of the supposed wreckage? malaysia and vietnam sent in SAR to the location the chinese provided and found nothing

^ Interesting ....

 

I wonder how much total fuel is being spent to find Flight 370.

 

malaysia is oil rich, im sure they will get billed soon.

plus china is bullying its way into the region

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

How is anyone meant to seem "competent" with so little to go on?

[Mockingbird]

I really feel for the families of those missing. It's quite clear the Malaysian authorities are a bunch of incompetent fools!!

 

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-03-12/why-malaysia-will-say-almost-nothing-about-the-missing-flight

[ATLien_0]

I really only see 2 options at the point. Either it did crash over water and is too deep to be seen right now or it was hijacked. From whats been coming out today, its starting to seem likely that the plane could have been hijacked, the question is if so, who took it and what would they be using it for?