Malaysia Airlines 'loses contact with plane' (and search effort updates)

[FloatingFatMan]

Is this real, though? I mean, is so,done actually going to put their name, email address and passport number on the internet? It wouldn't be difficult to fabricate this letter.

 

He didn't... He put them in an email, it was someone else who posted it on the internet.

 

Sure, it could be fake; but it might not be.  Also, what would be the point of lying?

[bonalste]

He didn't... He put them in an email, it was someone else who posted it on the internet.

Sure, it could be fake; but it might not be. Also, what would be the point of lying?

The same reason people post pictures on Facebook that say, "if this post gets 100,000 likes my mum will quit smoking", or "if you don't share this a ghost will come and kill you tonight". Some people like to feel like they're getting attention.

[XorpiZ]

He didn't... He put them in an email, it was someone else who posted it on the internet.

 

Sure, it could be fake; but it might not be.  Also, what would be the point of lying?

 

It's the internet. It's what people do.

[Hum]

Is this real, though? I mean, is someone actually going to put their name, email address and passport number on the internet? It wouldn't be difficult to fabricate this letter.

He sent this e-mail to the government Officials -- they put it on the Internet. ;)

[bonalste]

He sent this e-mail to the government Officials -- they put it on the Internet. ;)

It was sent to a gmail account. Malaysian government is using gmail now?

[Hum]

^ And why not ?

 

People seem so inclined to judge southeast countries by Western standards.

 

He probably had no idea what the official, private addresses are.

 

And it was:

 

Vietnam's air traffic management earlier said it had received an email ...

[+Anarkii Subscriber²]

How come after a week and a bit, all we have is still speculation to what has happened to the place and not one shred of proof?
Surely after a week, there would be SOMETHING. 
 

[bonalste]

^ And why not ?

People seem so inclined to judge southeast countries by Western standards.

He probably had no idea what the official, private addresses are.

Why wouldn't the Malaysian government use Gmail? I'm sure you can answer that yourself. Hell I just found the email address to at least one Malaysian government department and it took me 1 minute. It is gov.my, not Gmail, surprisingly.

[bonalste]

^ And why not ?

People seem so inclined to judge southeast countries by Western standards.

He probably had no idea what the official, private addresses are.

And it was:

Vietnam's air traffic management earlier said it had received an email ...

That makes more sense. Thanks.

[Hum]

How come after a week and a bit, all we have is still speculation to what has happened to the place and not one shred of proof?

Surely after a week, there would be SOMETHING. 

 

There are definite clues out there to solve the mystery.

 

But I guess everyone is having such a good time arguing and posturing to look. ;)

[Odom Member]

It was sent to a gmail account. Malaysian government is using gmail now?

 

Many companies and government insititutions use GMail.

[bonalste]

Many companies and government insititutions use GMail.

Malaysia doesn't. It uses .gov.my. Anyway it was sent to a Vietnamese air traffic controller, which answered my questions.

[jasondefaoite]

 

I thought what he said was he saw an explosion in the sky, and the timing was similar to the time the plane disappeared?

 

 

Again, he observed a burning in the sky. He came to the conclusion it was a plane after realising the timing matched up with the disappearance from radar of MH370. He didn't see a plane burning in the sky. He saw an explosion or burning of some kind.

 

 

Why does two changes of altitude tell you the passengers are dead?  All that tells you is that the plane changed altitude twice, which isn't unheard of during normal flights thanks to air pockets and the like.

 

It wasn't that it changed altitude twice, it was that it went above the ceiling of the aircraft for a short period of time. And air pockets won't increase your altitude to 45k ft.

 

No proof, but to me it's quite probable this was done, along with a depressurization of the plane to kill those on board. It's possible to depressurise the plane from the cockpit. The oxygen masks in the cabin may last only a matter of minutes. Their purpose is to give the passengers oxygen for the time it takes the plane to descend. The crew in the cockpit would have more oxygen reserves and definitely would outlast that of the cabin.

 

After a short time at 45k, the plane then descended to 20k+ as tracked by military radar.

 

If the objective of turning the transponder off, along with the rest of the comms, was to make yourself "invisible", if you want to hide from radar surely you would try to fly low. The ascending of the plane to 45k is very strange. Must be reason for that.

[bonalste]

Again, he observed a burning in the sky. He came to the conclusion it was a plane after realising the timing matched up with the disappearance from radar of MH370. He didn't see a plane burning in the sky. He saw an explosion or burning of some kind.

It wasn't that it changed altitude twice, it was that it went above the ceiling of the aircraft for a short period of time. And air pockets won't increase your altitude to 45k ft.

No proof, but to me it's quite probable this was done, along with a depressurization of the plane to kill those on board. It's possible to depressurise the plane from the cockpit. The oxygen masks in the cabin may last only a matter of minutes. Their purpose is to give the passengers oxygen for the time it takes the plane to descend. The crew in the cockpit would have more oxygen reserves and definitely would outlast that of the cabin.

After a short time at 45k, the plane then descended to 20k+ as tracked by military radar.

If the objective of turning the transponder off, along with the rest of the comms, was to make yourself "invisible", if you want to hide from radar surely you would try to fly low. The ascending of the plane to 45k is very strange. Must be reason for that.

Climbing to 45,000ft wouldn't be necessary if you wanted to do what you suggested. Depressurising at 39,000ft would have the same effect as doing so at 45,000ft.

[philcruicks]

Useful infographic to sum everything up so far:

 

 

Source: Washington Post via Reddit

[Hurmoth]

I hope this hasn't been posted yet, but I found this to be the most interesting plausible theory on MH370 I?ve seen so far: http://t.co/5YvOFvEtyJ

[jasondefaoite]

Climbing to 45,000ft wouldn't be necessary if you wanted to do what you suggested. Depressurising at 39,000ft would have the same effect as doing so at 45,000ft.

 

True ... but it would happen faster at 45k

[jerzdawg]

I hope this hasn't been posted yet, but I found this to be the most interesting plausible theory on MH370 I?ve seen so far: http://t.co/5YvOFvEtyJ

interesting read... very odd that there is no mention of the other 777..

[bonalste]

True ... but it would happen faster at 45k

Honestly it wouldn't make much difference, certainly not enough to bother climbing.

[Skiver Veteran]

I hope this hasn't been posted yet, but I found this to be the most interesting plausible theory on MH370 I?ve seen so far: http://t.co/5YvOFvEtyJ

Very interesting, it's certainly something I could believe happening.

[Hurmoth]

Very interesting, it's certainly something I could believe happening.

Yeah, it seems about as believable as anything else I've read. Especially considering how one day one part of the investigation says something and then the government over there says, "Nope, not true." I don't know what to believe and what not to anymore.

 

This investigation seems like it may go down as one of the worst in human history. Future investigators will have courses called, "how not to screw up a plane investigation." :rolleyes: 

[Hum]

I hope this hasn't been posted yet, but I found this to be the most interesting plausible theory on MH370 I?ve seen so far: http://t.co/5YvOFvEtyJ

 

It is my belief that MH370 likely flew in the shadow of SIA68 through India and Afghanistan airspace.

 

Iran's nuclear facilities are located just beyond the outskirts of Esfahan/Isfahan.

 

There is a strategy of 'shadowing'.

 

The stolen aircraft flies above a ligit plane in flight, and masks the other from radar.

 

 

Nope -- no one mentioned it. ;)

[JJ_]

Was Malaysian co-pilot's last message to base a secret distress signal? Officials investigate possibility unusual sign-off may have indicated something was wrong

• First Officer Fariq Abdul Hamid, 27, calmly said ?All right, good night?
• The cockpit sign-off to air traffic controllers ? not the recognised radio drill ? came at 1.19am on March 8
• Around a minute later the Boeing 777-200?s transponder which sends out a signal to radar stations, was switched off
• Officials are considering if the unusual sign-off was a secret signal

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[mudslag]

To much guessing going on.

[JJ_]

Yeah.. the media theories seem to be going into overdrive.