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Mark specified it will be shipped earlier this week; no 64-bit version will be included!

Crap.

I wonder if the Vista licence key that comes with the 32-bit version will work on a 64-bit version.

But free is free :)

So much hate... LOL... This is the ORIGINAL POSTER you are flaming.

hey I don't like with dumb people come in here and say stuff that is not true :p

Mark specified it will be shipped earlier this week; no 64-bit version will be included!

huh? why would they not give both? vista is sold as a combo product 32 and 64 bit together

huh? why would they not give both? vista is sold as a combo product 32 and 64 bit together

No idea why, but 64-bit is NOT included.

And that's according to Mark, a Microsoft employee at Channel 9, he's been informing us all along the process.

Here's what we know/don't know:

- No fancy box

- Retail License (No OEM)

- Shipping early this week

- No 64-bit included (if you have a 64-bit copy of Vista laying around and activate the key for the first time, you should be fine, since it's a retail license.

- No word on what company is being used to ship them.

...But free is free :)

exactly... so i dont understand why people are complaining about no 64bit version being included... unless you have a monster workstation with over 4Gb ram doing some serious video editing or 3D rendering you aren't going to see a performance difference between the two.

and if you COULD afford a monster workstation with 8Gb ram doing some serious rendering or editing... then buying Vista wouldn't be an issue since it would technically be the cheapest software in your arsenal ;)

exactly... so i dont understand why people are complaining about no 64bit version being included... unless you have a monster workstation with over 4Gb ram doing some serious video editing or 3D rendering you aren't going to see a performance difference between the two.

and if you COULD afford a monster workstation with 8Gb ram doing some serious rendering or editing... then buying Vista wouldn't be an issue since it would technically be the cheapest software in your arsenal ;)

To be fair, you are paying taxes for it.

MICROSOFT SOFTWARE LICENSE TERMS

WINDOWS VISTA BUSINESS

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I too verified MS license agreement for advantage upgrade from business to ultimate. You can only change computer or motherboard once with the advantage upgrade to Ultimate. This is not right since I have personally changed motherboards several times since Windows XP came out several years ago. This means you can only upgrade/change your computer one time or you will have to buy another copy of MS Vista Ultimate or stay with Vista Business in which case you are unlimited with upgrading your computer. Once you upgrade you cannot go back from ultimate to business. Makes me wonder if I need to wait until MS changes license agreement before installing Vista since I usually upgrade my computer about once a year. What happens if you have to replace a defective motherboard or another computer componet that requires reactivation of Vista.

MICROSOFT SOFTWARE LICENSE TERMS

WINDOWS VISTA BUSINESS

...

I too verified MS license agreement for advantage upgrade from business to ultimate. You can only change computer or motherboard once with the advantage upgrade to Ultimate. This is not right since I have personally changed motherboards several times since Windows XP came out several years ago. This means you can only upgrade/change your computer one time or you will have to buy another copy of MS Vista Ultimate or stay with Vista Business in which case you are unlimited with upgrading your computer. Once you upgrade you cannot go back from ultimate to business. Makes me wonder if I need to wait until MS changes license agreement before installing Vista since I usually upgrade my computer about once a year. What happens if you have to replace a defective motherboard or another computer componet that requires reactivation of Vista.

That has changed..." If you purchase a new computer with Windows Vista preinstalled, or if you build your own PC using an OEM version of Windows, this change doesn't affect you. Your copy is locked to that PC and cannot be transferred to another.

If you purchase a retail copy of Windows Vista and install it on a PC, you can install that same copy on another PC, provided you remove it from the original PC. In this scenario, you may be unable to activate the new copy over the Internet, but you will be able to activate over the phone.

You can perform an unlimited number of upgrades to an existing computer running a retail version of Windows Vista. If those upgrades are significant enough to cause the computer to look like a new PC, you'll be required to reactivate within 30 days.

This change should resolve one issue associated with the use of Windows Vista in virtual machines as well. Under the newly worded license, you should be able to move a virtual copy of Windows Vista to a new physical hardware without violating the terms of the license agreement, provided that you remove the virtual machine files from the old hardware. "

This info can be found at: http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=166

Since we are getting the retail version from the power together promotion we wont have any worries.

Also read in the EULA for Retail Vista Business that we are allowed to transfer the "Software" to another device. It doesnt specify the number of times you can install it. : "Software Other than Windows Anytime Upgrade. You may uninstall the software

and install it on another device for your use. You may not do so to share this license

between devices."

However it also says: " Windows Anytime Upgrade Software. The first user of the software may reassign

the license to another device one time, but only if the license terms of the software you

upgraded from allows reassignment. "

So i guess thats something to think about when some of us are tempted to upgrade to Ultimate :/

Here is the link: http://download.microsoft.com/documents/us...93ed16d138a.pdf

Edited by jmartin

so to clear somthing up.

with this cd....i install vista on my current rig.

then lets say...a year to 6months down the road, i ditch my pc and get a new one. or like my harddrive just crashed so thank god im getting a new one before this arrives. and if i get a nother one...i will have to REPURCHASE this? or....thats only if i do that anytime upgrade....which i probably wont if this is the case.

also MS in all the times they shipped me stuff....(unless it was ordered from their store) i have always recieved them really really late. like even after the waiting period it doesnt take the standard 2-3 business days. it usually takes a week or two. i dont know if its the carriers fault or just them saying they actually shipped it but waited till the last minute. anyways through Connect i always recived things after they were worthless. For example i got RC1 close to when RC2 was being released...i didnt even bother installing it then.

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