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	<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:56:24 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>UK phone line/broadband question</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I'm just curious as to whether this exists or not.<br /><br />What I'm looking for is if there are any ISP's that provide broadband + line rental but without any phone calling capabilities. I never use my home phone, I use my mobile for all my calls. All it seems to be there for is to recieve sales calls.<br /><br />Does something like this exist?]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:29:51 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Is it better to be mixed race?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Check out this documentary, it's pretty interesting.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2009/11/03/18627695.php" target="_blank">http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2009/11/03/18627695.php</a>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:45:28 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>CeX</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I've now had two bad experiences with them, shouldn't of bothered. Tried the sell to cex service, sent off my parcel of games 1st class 16/11, end of week no word, emailed no response, email this afternoon saying still waiting for package....grr Crap company, I guess royal mail deserve some blame too. I put a return address on the box...might get it back.<br /><br />End of rant!]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:06:15 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[''Burj Dubai'' The tallest building of the world]]></title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Burj Dubai<br />From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia<br /><br />Burj Dubai (Arabic: &#1576;&#1585;&#1580; &#1583;&#1576;&#1610;&#8206; "Dubai Tower"), a supertall skyscraper under construction in Dubai, United Arab Emirates, is the tallest man-made structure ever built, at 818 m (2,684 ft). Construction began on 21 September 2004, and the tower is expected to be completed and ready for occupancy on 4 January 2010.[1][2]<br /><br />The building is part of the 2 km2 (0.8 sq mi) flagship development called "Downtown Burj Dubai" at the "First Interchange" along Sheikh Zayed Road, near Dubai's main business district. The tower's architect is Adrian Smith, who worked with Skidmore, Owings and Merrill (SOM) until 2006.[6][7] The Chicago-based architecture and engineering firm SOM is in charge of the project.[6] The primary builders are Samsung Engineering & Construction and Besix along with Arabtec.[8] Turner Construction Company was chosen as the construction manager.[9]<br /><br />The total budget for the Burj Dubai project is about US$4.1 billion, and for the entire new "Downtown Dubai", US$20 billion.[10] Mohamed Ali Alabbar, the CEO of Emaar Properties, speaking at the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat 8th World Congress, said that the price of office space at Burj Dubai had reached US$4,000 per sq ft (over US$43,000 per m2) and that the Armani Residences, also in Burj Dubai, were selling for US$3,500 per sq ft (over US$37,500 per m2).<br /><br /><br />***Every picture of Burj Dubai from www.Skyscrapercity.com***<br /><br /><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2677/4110861668_aa1e4563eb_b.jpg" border="0" alt="" class="linked-image" /><br />Burj Dubai, November 2009<br /><br /><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2799/4102664445_fcc0d20889_o.jpg" border="0" alt="" class="linked-image" /><br />At night<br /><br /><img src="http://i37.tinypic.com/2uzuvww.jpg" border="0" alt="" class="linked-image" /><br />View From Burj Dubai<br /><br /><img src="http://i33.tinypic.com/2djqeeg.jpg" border="0" alt="" class="linked-image" /><br /><br /><img src="http://i38.tinypic.com/167nghd.jpg" border="0" alt="" class="linked-image" /><br /><br /><img src="http://i38.tinypic.com/28jvxy.jpg" border="0" alt="" class="linked-image" /><br /><br /><img src="http://i38.tinypic.com/a316h3.jpg" border="0" alt="" class="linked-image" /><br /><br /><img src="http://i38.tinypic.com/jtkyeh.jpg" border="0" alt="" class="linked-image" /><br /><br /><img src="http://i34.tinypic.com/w6txkl.jpg" border="0" alt="" class="linked-image" /><br /><br /><img src="http://i34.tinypic.com/25jy1rk.jpg" border="0" alt="" class="linked-image" /><br /><br /><img src="http://i34.tinypic.com/kbdbwm.jpg" border="0" alt="" class="linked-image" /><br /><br /><img src="http://i38.tinypic.com/2gtalbs.jpg" border="0" alt="" class="linked-image" /><br /><br /><img src="http://lh3.ggpht.com/_hOl2e0230VA/Sv6ogJXgTYI/AAAAAAAAEpk/5-8wHE-kTD8/s800/IMG_7678.JPG" border="0" alt="" class="linked-image" /><br /><br /><img src="http://i35.tinypic.com/wji9eu.jpg" border="0" alt="" class="linked-image" /><br /><br /><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2787/4098203102_1cd3c0c6dc_b.jpg" border="0" alt="" class="linked-image" /><br /><br /><img src="http://i37.tinypic.com/547vxz.jpg" border="0" alt="" class="linked-image" /><br /><br /><img src="http://i48.tinypic.com/18et0h.jpg" border="0" alt="" class="linked-image" /><br />Burj Dubai+Dubai Mall<br /><br /><img src="http://i48.tinypic.com/ejhf6p.jpg" border="0" alt="" class="linked-image" /><br /><br /><img src="http://i45.tinypic.com/2iavskj.jpg" border="0" alt="" class="linked-image" /><br /><br /><img src="http://i50.tinypic.com/mcayl2.jpg" border="0" alt="" class="linked-image" /><br /><br /><img src="http://i48.tinypic.com/30dcxth.jpg" border="0" alt="" class="linked-image" /><br /><br /><img src="http://i47.tinypic.com/2u6k8qh.jpg" border="0" alt="" class="linked-image" /><br /><br />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:36:28 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>happy 24th birthday to Windows!</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Check this out!<br /><a href="http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/24-years-of-windows-package-design-643034" target="_blank">http://www.techradar.com/news/software/ope...e-design-643034</a>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:48:33 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>I feel ancient</title>
		<link>http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=847826</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Today, I went down to the store to buy a 10 pack of floppy disks for my one year old computer <img src="http://www.neowin.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":o" border="0" alt="ohmy.gif" /><br /><br />(needed it for the drivers to install WHS)<br /><br /><!--coloro:#FFFFFF--><span style="color:#FFFFFF"><!--/coloro-->This deserved a thread.<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:17:36 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>FREE ipsec client</title>
		<link>http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=847812</link>
		<description><![CDATA[I am looking for an ipsec client.  FREE and compatible with linksys rv042 router.  If you have tried this or know of a possibility please let me know.<br /><br />Sorry if this is a double post]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:08:54 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>ipsec client help</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guys, I am looking for a FREE ipsec client that will work with the linksys rv042.  Any ideas or experiences would help me out.<br /><br />thanks]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:02:47 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Got invited to first college party</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Got invited to my first every college party when I just happened to log in to Facebook, being that I'm not the partying type(and that its on the other side of the city which takes an hour to get to) I declined.  Wonder what would have happened had I gone...]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:23:14 -0500</pubDate>
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		<title>Why Software Patents Do Not Make Sense</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[To me, software patents just don't make much sense. Perhaps it's because I've worked in a lot of different fields on both sides of the fence--so to speak. Or, perhaps it's because of my inherent fondness of writing. In either case, we must accept what has already been agreed upon by a very large majority and expand upon that reality.<br /><br />So, let's ask ourselves to define software by asking simple questions. How? How? How? How do we conceive software? How do we think of it? How do we speak of it? How do we create it? How do we manufacture it? How do we do the same with like material?<br /><br />Well, first of all, software is based on programming <i>languages</i>. Before anyone even begins <i>typing</i>, everyone first goes through the routine of noting which programming <i>languages</i> they are familiar with. There is no sense on working on a project if you have not learned the required <i>language</i>.<br /><br />Then when we <i>write</i> software, we do so by making logical <i>statements</i> or <i>comparisons</i>. Don't forget to avoid those <i>reserved words</i>, as appropriate, and properly employ <i>language elements</i>. Generally, the process involves <i>drafting code</i> and <i>revising code</i> and then finally <i>implementing the code</i>.<br /><br />Once we are done <i>writing</i> the software, we either <i>publish</i> the code ourselves or, especially if we've written a game <i>title</i>, we seek a <i>publisher</i> to <i>distribute</i> our software to electronic or <i>physical shelf space</i>. Meanwhile, attorneys or the most suitable individuals make <i>copies</i> of the software code and submit the <i>printed pages</i> for copyright registration just like any other <i>written</i> work.<br /><br />Now imagine if you could not only copyright a book but patent the book too. Suppose someone was first--someone is always first--to create a page with minimal text. You've seen pages like this between chapters, right? What about the first to create an index at the end or a table of contents that allows someone to quickly jump to parts of this <i>knowledge-based</i> "intellectual" property. <br /><br />Doing so would create seriously negative effects. It would largely impede language communication and development. Or, in other words, it would curtail the growth and sharing of thought. Sometimes, the mere <i>expression</i> is currently forbidden and the bloom of a rose wilts away.<br /><br />I have no problem with someone copyrighting a particular phrase or organization of facts. I have done it myself. There is also a place for proper trademarks. Granted, that is another topic. However, on the subject of software patents, why should anyone be so paranoid and greedy in a land supposedly based on the tenants of sharing and freedom and a purportedly "free economy" that is allowed to grow from the tiny sparks of thought in our heads out to the environment and ultimately to the people?<br /><br />Isn't an active environment fertilized with ideas and blooming success more valuable to us as a society than a single hog who purposefully strips the earth of its resources and bans others from planting flowers just because they thought of writing about the <i>life cycle</i> of flowers first?<br /><br />Everyone should have the opportunity to harvest--and develop--a rich environment. This is what makes a good <i>community</i>.  This place is our home and, yet, this is what we have made of it: A chained madness. Anyone who stands for what this country truly represents should be ashamed of these absurd software patents and break the chains that should not exist whether in the past, present or future.<br />]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:00:43 -0500</pubDate>
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