[Official] Xbox Series X & Series S Discussion


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George P
2 minutes ago, LostCat said:

I'd be surprised if it wasn't about the rumored $200-220 but depends on how much demand there is off the bat I suppose.

If you compare it to current ones in the same performance range you'd probably be close.  But then maybe by going with Seagate only to start is allowing them to get a even better price.  Guess we'll see.  I'm personally OK with uninstalling a game after i'm done with it, mostly because I don't often replay many games.   That's just me though, always on to something new.

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tsupersonic

I didn't pre-order, but I expect to get an SX or SS sometime in 2021. I'm buying mine with all Microsoft Rewards points. I have enough for an SS now, but deciding if I want the SX. Either way, I should have enough points by end of this year. 

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11 minutes ago, George P said:

If you compare it to current ones in the same performance range you'd probably be close.  But then maybe by going with Seagate only to start is allowing them to get a even better price.  Guess we'll see.  I'm personally OK with uninstalling a game after i'm done with it, mostly because I don't often replay many games.   That's just me though, always on to something new.

I'll probably keep my current external SSDs on so I don't even know how much space I'll need.  It'll be interesting not having this damn near useless 1TB of space anymore hah.

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George P

Since you can move games from external to the internet when you want to play I can see many doing that with a cheaper and bigger HDD for example.  Don't know how long it'll take to move games to the internal drive but should be faster than downloading them over for sure.

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George P

 

If anyone is looking for some 3rd party accessories. 

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SnoopZ
3 hours ago, George P said:

Still no idea of how much the expansion SSDs are gonna cost.  Dunno why they haven't given us that price yet either.

One UK retailer had it priced at £159 the other day before quickly removing it.

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George P

Engadget saying the external cards are $220, but that's off of a best buy pre-order listing which might not be up anymroe, I haven't checked.

 

Anyways, internal Gen4, and even Gen3, NVMe 1TB cards you can buy now aren't that cheap.

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George P

Looks like it's official, $220.  Yikes.  Well, I'll just get a bigger USB4 HDD and use that as storage, transfer any games I want to play to the internal etc.  

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Steven P.

Bugger me! That puts an Xbox Series S and expandable at $520 roflbbq 😂

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SnoopZ
1 hour ago, Steven P. said:

Bugger me! That puts an Xbox Series S and expandable at $520 roflbbq 😂

Yep if someone who bought the S also wanted expandable 1TB storage then they should just buy the Xbox Series S instead! lol 

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George P

I should say the best thing to do cost wise is get a external SSD, and move games around.  These custom NVMe SSDs are going to be pricy for both Xbox and PlayStation.  

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SnoopZ
1 minute ago, George P said:

I should say the best thing to do cost wise is get a external SSD, and move games around.  These custom NVMe SSDs are going to be pricy for both Xbox and PlayStation.  

It definitely will be for S owners for sure. 

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George P
1 minute ago, SnoopZ said:

It definitely will be for S owners for sure. 

Unless they don't much care to keep so many games installed.  Re-downloading is a pain for sure but if you're not going to play the game again, say you do it via game pass for example, then it might not be such a issue for them.   

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1 hour ago, George P said:

Unless they don't much care to keep so many games installed.  Re-downloading is a pain for sure but if you're not going to play the game again, say you do it via game pass for example, then it might not be such a issue for them.   

I assume people are talking about the Call of Duty crowd who might indeed have issues, but you can always use external drives you probably already have for non Series enhanced games.

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As for me I already have the expansion card preordered...even though I probably don’t need it right away so that’s pointless heh.

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dipsylalapo

I'm going to hold fire for now. I'll see what the transfer speeds are like between my external HDD and the internal drive. Those combined will give me close to 3TB of storage space which is nuts in itself.

 

I feel like the way that I play games, 1TB should suffice.

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George P
52 minutes ago, dipsylalapo said:

I'm going to hold fire for now. I'll see what the transfer speeds are like between my external HDD and the internal drive. Those combined will give me close to 3TB of storage space which is nuts in itself.

 

I feel like the way that I play games, 1TB should suffice.

Are you also like me who uninstalls a game once they're done with it and hardly, if ever plays it again?   I don't keep too many games installed after I'm done.

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2 hours ago, dipsylalapo said:

I'm going to hold fire for now. I'll see what the transfer speeds are like between my external HDD and the internal drive. Those combined will give me close to 3TB of storage space which is nuts in itself.

 

I feel like the way that I play games, 1TB should suffice.

I should've held on a bit.  I have the money, but it's been a while.

 

After everything else though, eh, why not?  It'll be an awesome end to a crappy year.

 

And I can move my external SSDs to other systems (my laptop can use one, and I can stop using the SSHD on my desktop.)

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Alright well that didn't last I cancelled the storage card order.  It can wait til after launch.

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George P
6 hours ago, LostCat said:

Alright well that didn't last I cancelled the storage card order.  It can wait til after launch.

I'm in no rush either, I think that 1TB will last a good bit for me since I'm pretty picky on the games I play now that my time is more limited.   The only question I have at this point is if I play Cyberpunk 2077 on Series X or get it flat out through GoG so CDPR gets all the money?  

 

I'm leaning towards buying it through GoG to show more support and I do have all the witcher games through there already.

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Skiver

That price is only harder to swallow after the previous rumour of it being £160, the £220 is kinda what I was expecting. 

 

I'll run with 1TB for a while and see how it goes but like dipsy, I think I'll see how transfer speeds are and maybe rotate games between an external HDD and the internal.

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dipsylalapo
17 hours ago, George P said:

Are you also like me who uninstalls a game once they're done with it and hardly, if ever plays it again?   I don't keep too many games installed after I'm done.

Pretty much, I have a few games (Warzone, No Man's Sky, Assassin's Creed) that I dip into every now and then and won't uninstall, but yeah most others, I have a play through and then uninstall.

 

8 hours ago, LostCat said:

Alright well that didn't last I cancelled the storage card order.  It can wait til after launch.

It's unlike the console where I doubt that it'll be hard to get a hold of. You can see have you get on with the console and buy the external storage after if needed.

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George P

I also expect the storage cards will drop in price relatively faster than the consoles will.  Maybe in 6 months it'll be in the $150 range.  

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dipsylalapo
31 minutes ago, George P said:

I also expect the storage cards will drop in price relatively faster than the consoles will.  Maybe in 6 months it'll be in the $150 range.  

Not only the price dropping but hopefully we'll see third party ones too.

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George P
1 hour ago, dipsylalapo said:

Not only the price dropping but hopefully we'll see third party ones too.

We will, no doubt.  I just don't know how long the deal with Seagate is going to last.  Might be a year for example.  Either way, once it's open to others I also expect to see a suggested adaptor card that lets you use the longer 2280 types.  Sure it'll stick out way more on the back but oh well.

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