Dark_INk Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 You owe it to yourself to attend-and see what Pentecost can really mean to you! 585149206[/snapback] good way to conclude :) i would suggest that ppl church around too- and check out other faiths (but b uber friendly- bite your tongue if necessary) (if anything it'll help you reaffirm why you believe the way you do and not 'x' way) personally i'm a presbytarian (christian) /w some bhuddist ties/similarities (quirky huh) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph3412t3h13 Posted December 22, 2004 Author Share Posted December 22, 2004 wow this thread has turned into something else the madness has TAKEN OVER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_INk Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Come hell or high water :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph3412t3h13 Posted December 22, 2004 Author Share Posted December 22, 2004 Come hell or high water :cool: 585149838[/snapback] wow like that was really appropriate :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiRox Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Gambit kicks ass.ever played xmen mutant academy 2? 585145269[/snapback] even though that's totally off the topic...but no i haven't played it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leesmithg Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 god doesn't believe in atheists, therefore atheists don't exist 585148291[/snapback] How do you know this? Myself I am unsure, if what man named ''God'' actually exists. Religion was invented by the upper classes to keep the common folk in check! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiRox Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 ^ word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samwisefoxburr Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Don't believe in God. Never have, never will. I just praise Jeebus that my parents dropped Christianity long before I or any of my brothers were born. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LispyGlitter2 Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 I'm Jewish and I beleive in a higher power. i don't really know what it is or what it's called, because it's too personal to have a name and likeness to a human. But I know it's there and I feel it with the sunrise and when I go to sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwanders Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 You still haven't told me how you feel about people that believe in religions that don't center around a Christian God. I'll make it easier this time. Let's lump Christianity, Judaism and Islam all together since their Gods can all be construed as the same entity.So, that said, what about those that believe in polytheistic religions or monotheistic religions with a different God? What's to become of them in the afterlife? I don't imagine they'd get into Heaven, since they don't believe in God. Obviously they can't go to their own version of Heaven, because that would mean there are multiple 'correct' religions, and that just can't be. So what's the deal? What about the ancient Greeks and Romans? Were they all just misguided for believing in so many gods? If that's the case, then isn't it equally plausible that in 4000 years people will read the Bible as a 'mythology' book and wonder how so many people could have believed in such farcical tales? P.S. - I'm trying to have a civilized conversation with you here, so don't go belittling me with your "Dear Little Jack"...ok? 585147341[/snapback] Alright, well we got off track a bit ( perhaps more than a bit ), but dont think I've forgotten about you John... I'm still waiting for a response to the quoted post above... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_M Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 (edited) Oh I'm here, just working on the false statements jdb264c stated for now. Your the least of my worries, please be patient, I will retern to our session soon. John M Edited December 24, 2004 by John_M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwanders Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 Oh I'm here, just working on the false statements jdb264c stated for now. Your the least of my worries, please be patient, I will retern to our session soon. John M 585156739[/snapback] if i'm the least of your worries, why am I still waiting for a reply to what you'd have me believe is a insignifigant question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viserov Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 I'm agnostic... so I voted athiest. The options above overlap a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwanders Posted December 27, 2004 Share Posted December 27, 2004 I'm agnostic... so I voted athiest. The options above overlap a lot. 585172343[/snapback] tell me about it...I think Neowin needs a "How to make a poll" tutorial. Most of the polls I've seen recently have grossly overlapping responses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilroy-was-here Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 Have yet to see proof for it, therefore I do not believe in God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwanders Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 I am a Christian. And I believe in God. Why? Here's an example.Most of the past month I have been depressed, wanting to sleep a lot and not get out of bed. Finally I got tired of it and asked my mom to pray to "God" that I would feel better and not be depressed any more. The very next day, I was no longer depressed and I felt 100% again. :) :D And I haven't been depressed since either. :yes: 585092724[/snapback] As long as you understand that what you have in an interpretation of events, drawing causality where only correlation exists, not fact...then more power to you. Where one sees the power of god, another just as easily sees the power of self or coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdb264c Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 Oh I'm here, just working on the false statements jdb264c stated for now. Your the least of my worries, please be patient, I will retern to our session soon. John M 585156739[/snapback] How's it going..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwanders Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 How's it going..? 585185305[/snapback] I think he gave up. That, or he was so confounded by your 'false statements' that his head exploded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MateoGWJ Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Well that's it, Im starting a cheese church, anyone want to join?This is my picture of my cheese god, anyone have a picture of theirs? http://www.incredibleinedibles.net/assets/...cheesblock2.jpg 585113110[/snapback] I'll join in on the Cheddar Sect, but I won't bow to Swiss. Sorry. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolvereen Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 First off, I appreciate those of you on both side of this topic that can approach this without flaming others. It shows maturity in dicussion that people can RESPECTIVELY disagree. To those flaming or making fun of believers, please keep in mind that to some of us, this is our GOD. That's a HUGE thing. Imagine somebody actively attacking your parents, or spouse. To those of us that believe, this is 100x worse. That said, as a CHristian, I think the hardest thing to describe to non-believers is FAITH. Faith is such a key component of our beliefe system. I believe in God b/c I have faith and believe that the word of God (aka Bible) is a hard truth. I believe it backs up the case for God over and over again. To non-believers though, this document holds no validity per se. That is why some choose to try to explain their belief in terms of personal experiances. When it comes down to it all, its a very personal, intimate decision. Even in the realm of science, there are still leaps made in scientific theory. Take the argument behind creationism vs. evolution. Even in the realm of evolution, there is a leap made by science. We have absolutely no way of prooving either way how the universe was created. We have evidence that can LEAD to a possible beginning, but nothing that is absolute. The same goes with belief in God. There is no "proof" to non-believers, but to Christians, the Bible is that proof. I think its awesome that even on a board like this, there are those that have questions about life and faith and God. Its great that we can discuss this all openly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nonentity Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 I believe in god... and i'm not afraid to admit it. It helps me to become a better person. However, i am not going to go off on someone because they believe differently than I do. I respect people for whatever they choose to believe. 585091741[/snapback] But 99% of the atheist retards are not like that. It's a shame, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 But 99% of the atheist retards are not like that. It's a shame, really. 585190791[/snapback] :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kachie Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 the question is not if you believe in god... the quiestiong should be wich god you believe?... any human have the tendency to belive that there is something powerful up there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MateoGWJ Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Saw this over on Rudd-O, thought it might enliven the God dsicussion a bit: http://www.amautacorp.com/staff/Rudd-O/ An elegant satire that. But true in many ways. Even as a catholic, I cannot hold, as many do, that the bible is literal. These few points deftly illustrate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdb264c Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Saw this over on Rudd-O, thought it might enliven the God dsicussion a bit:http://www.amautacorp.com/staff/Rudd-O/ An elegant satire that. But true in many ways. Even as a catholic, I cannot hold, as many do, that the bible is literal. These few points deftly illustrate that. 585191485[/snapback] Truly a great one. Didn't "President" Bartlet use almost the exackt same speach in an episode of The White House? It's basically the same things I mentioned in my reply to John_M. There are numerous examples of contradictory things in both New and Old Testament, as well as cruelty etc. Personally, and in despite of what I actually replied earlier, I don't regularly use them as separated arguments (although they all bear validity). The most important thing is that the Bible actually forbids you to do anything but believe every word. At work right now (preparing to take care of returning victims from the earthquake over in Asia) so I can't really show you the verses, but might return to that. Anyway, Wolvereen, I hope you didn't consider my replies to be of a mocking character, they weren't meant to be. I've studied the Bible from beginning to end numerous times and it just amazes me every time how anyone still can manage to believe. I could understand how one could want, or hope, or wish for a nice god to exist, but to believe? Don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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